What does the 1-49 bracket teach us about PVP gear?

Actually most of our matches start where the Republic only has 5 to 6 players and we get the 120 second warning then we slowly build to 7 maybe 8 by the time the match is half over...

once again you haven't a clue...

Not going to quote the entire novel, but you need to do some research on effective health vs. actual health, and time to live. A 20% damage spread from expertise is FAR, FAR more desirable than 20% more health.

It increases your longevity by significnatly more than the extra hp does without even considering heals incoming or cooldown use, and much moreso the more healing you receive. It also increases the value of every heal you receive because each hp you have is more valuable than the hp on someone with less mitigation.

Also, if you think that ~340 cunning is even close to a 20% dps increase, you are severely mistaken.

Full PvP gear will destroy full rakata gear every time, and even moreso when healing is considered.

Because 300 expertise is about 5%. not the 25% you reported. Can you do math?



So what you're saying is that the expertise stat in-game LIES? That instead of buffing my damage by the 10.5% i get in my full champion gear, its actually doing MORE? See that latin in my signature? That's Occam's Razor.

Go read about it.

"12-14k not in BM gear, blah blah blah"

As their HP goes up.. you realize their ARMOR IS GOING UP TOO? They are going from lower-rating armor to higher-rating armor, which provides more armor points, EVEN IN PVE GEAR.

I have 16k in my PvE gear. I'd have even more if i had columi.
(and only 15.3k in my PvP gear - Full champion!)

I understand it, but trying to blame that on the faction you're playing is simply not logical. You're losing because your team is losing.

Medal gain controls commendation gain. Simple, provable fact.

When you get a medal in the warzone, it puts a b uff on you. Mouse over that buff sometime. read what it says:

"Valor increased by 50 and commendations by 5 for every medal earned".

Just had a losing Alderaan.

Had the following medals:
2.5k single hit
solo kill
killing blow
2.5k heal
5k heal
75k damage done
300k damage done
1k defender
3k defender

so, in that LOSING Alderaan, i got: 70 commendations. (thanks to the extra 45 i got from medals)

I just WON a Huttball, too, (two games later). The other team was so awful, we ended the game with 9 minutes still on the clock.

I had only 5 medals:
solo kill
75k damage
killing blow
2.5 k heal
5k heal

I got (for this WIN) - 50 commendations.

you get 25 for playing. Anything else is based entirely on your medal gain. It's why tanks roll through the commendations. Ive seen tanks with 13 medals.

Sounds like someone exploited Ilum.... But no I think she's trying to say remove Expertise

I'd just like to say that since I rolled a new toon and have been playing WZ i have been having a blast.

Playing on my 50 sorc is just blah. You either run into fully geared premades on vent/mumble, or your team is filled with fresh 50s - sometimes both !

In 10-49 gear doesn't really matter that much , it is so nice

You are comparing apples and oranges. If you had got as many medals in your winning huttball, you would have gained more commendations than in your losing Alderaan. For someone who seems to want to argue with math and logic, you don't do a good job of it.

There is a baseline value for a win or a loss. A win gives more than a loss. Anything else is available irrespective of winning or losing. That doesn't change the fact that a win gives more than a loss.

Your numbers are off, because winning does give more commendations than losing.

what fictional 20% are you spouting about?

Its 13.5% in head-to-toe battlemaster.

Expertise has diminishing returns.

And no, i dont think that 340 cunning is a 20% dps increase. But the better stats on the off-pieces of the gear will certainly be more than a 10% increase.

Just for one skill (Ambush)

Going from my PvP gear (full champ):
1379 Cunning/358.6 bonus damage - Ambush is 2607-2807

1450 cunning/408.1 bonus damage - Ambush is 2770-2970

Thats a 163 damage loss on that one single skills, and my PvE gear is lower level than my PvP gear - im in mostly orange gear with daily quest mods and a few stripped enhancements from spare PvP pieces or Columi gear (from tokens for other classes from HMs). If i was in full Columi-level gear, it'd be more like 300 damage difference (acutally the spreadhseet says 330 damage, but well round down).

That's more like a 14% difference in dps. And that isn't even taking into account the extra 5% crit and 30% surge in my PvE gear.

Rakata will take.. slightly more damage, but you EASILY lose the 13.5% damage you can from full battlemaster in lost stats. All it is doing is bringing you back up to where you would have been.

Love the part about Expertise being to keep PVE players out of PVP. I think you will find most of the good raiders will PVP and PVE and do both well there are a lot of raiders out there that are Battlemasters. Not that having BM gear or the title makes you skilled in anyway, just you have more time on your hands to grind at a computer desk all day

Funny.. three more games, 2 wins, 1 loss. Number of commendations always equals up to (medals x5) +25.