Shouldnt there be a big difference in new 50s and BM 50s?

I like how even with the Imperial advantage he has, he still whines about not having an upper hand.

What this game really needs is more meaningful PvP.

Leaderboards, proper server stats, Rep v Imps win/loss ratios, recognition for the best servers, etc.

I think PvP gear should matter some but not a staggering amount, but currently it's the only yardstick they have post L50.

More, and more meaningful PvP systems (because Ilum is just a big, fat fail right now). Toss a load of these CCs too because if people want a 'skill' based PvP experience then the CC spamming is the worst kind of equaliser you can have.

I want to see how I'm ranking compared to other guys on my server say for DPS or just for my class, etc. I think if that was more the case then people wouldn't care so much about wanting a staggering difference in PvP gear tiers.

Do u baddies realize that after patch itll take like 2 weeks to get full champ assuming u have worst luck ever? If your using gear as an excuse ur a newb and should probably uninstall anyway cause this is by far the easiest mmo ever to get gear in.

Oh, and a proper duel-combative mode too would be awesome :-)

The catering to casuals knows no bounds, developers, starting in as early as EQ1 when SoE took over and throughout WoW have started this awful trend of *********** over the hardcore players by taking away any sense of accomplishment in putting in time and effort. True skill should be the deciding factor, but if I wanted to play a purely skill based game I would go play a FPS or an RTS. MMOs are about gear, time investment, and skill. I agree 100% with OP that new 50s should not have a chance in hell against someone who is full BM unless the BM is a terribad and the new 50 is really skilled. The way it is now is fine, just fix these RNG bags.

What exactly does this mean?

That you destroy people with your 500 expertise? My alt just now got 500 expertise in exactly one week without grinding extra bags, and they'll even be making it easier to get.

That you get owned because you only have 500 expertise? My main is a BM guardian with 700 expertise. The difference between 500 and 700 is ~2.4%. Hardly game breaking.

Anyone who says the 10-49 bracket is more balanced is full of **** and have no idea what they're talking about. Period. These are the facts. Deal with it.

Its like hitting 50 and wanting to do hard modes and doing laughable damage and getting hit hard. Your gear simply isn't there for what you want to do. I admit in PvP you do not really have the choice to select what kind of opponent you are up against but maybe that is something BW should look into, provide brackets or a matching system that considers players valor rank.

Edit: Mind you PvP is more forgiving, if you want to PvE above your gear level you will simply NOT progress, if you PvP above your gear level you can still acquire gear but at a slower pace

^ i didnt put the last 3 weeks in for champion gear (still dont have my weapon) and the time it takes to hit 60 valor currently at 57 just so some jag of new player can run in after 2 weeks of straight playing to have every thing i do.

I certainly didn't put up with all the ignorant or blatantly stupid folk in pvp matches who have no clue what there doing, Talking to you guy/girl who runs the huttball the wrong way.

some times your on the short side of the poop stick other times your the one smacking people in the face with the poop stick, we all had to work for it and toning it down just demeans the time the others had to put in for it.

theres already entry level pvp gear... the centurion gear is entry level but you still only get tokens from champ bags the best they could do is offer daily's or something for centurion tokens i guess....



^ that also..

edit: there planning to add level brackets and ranking brackets so ya.... although i hope the ranking system is not what i think every ones hoping for basically champ gear vs champ gear there would never be any thing but huttball for imps ever..

The game is extremely unbalanced at this point in time, if you have issues with advantages being taken away from you go to another game....

Sorry I didn't clarify...it's too big because I faceroll people without gear and that's lame. It's pretty close to the same as fighting green level mobs...yawn.

It's not just about expertise either. There's a pretty massive gap in all the "normal" stats between crafted/purples and the champ gear.

My jugg has plenty of gear to compete in the 50s bracket. If I lose a 1 on 1 fight, it's because I was outplayed, the short comings of my class, or a combination thereof.

I actually have barely played her for the last few weeks. Sitting at rank 58 for a while now...I basically abandon her to play the marauder I mentioned.