Shouldnt there be a big difference in new 50s and BM 50s?

I spend most of my time playing pvp,mainly because of time matters and the fact that i don't like being in a large guild and having to follow certain schedules to be able to raid for my gear i just don't have the time to sit at my desk for hours on end raiding.

Over time i probably spend the same amount of time in pvp but in smaller chunks.
Now as i pay the same amount of subs as everyone else and also spend the same amount of time doing what i like best i think that it fair that i have some sort of gear progression as everyone else.

So i ask is it fair and just for someone who only plays pve to be able to pop in a wz and mangle all the people like myself who enjoys the pvp side and like wise a pvp player to able to join a top end raid and top the charts even if he has never earned his gear in pve.

I think not so having pvp gear that reflects your dedication to that area is required to fend of the attacks of raiders joining pvp and making a mockery of the passion of someone else.

So fresh 50,s joining wz have to look at it the same way as if there facing higher bosses in pve raids that there progression will improve in time and effort and gear.

One thing i will say it would help if us pvp players did support new 50 more rather than leaving wz after checking there gear out and some of the real *** hats insulting them.

Care to explain what skill progression means?

NO!

What most people want is a fair balanced fight where the most skilled combatant comes out on top.

ok, so I have done umptiine million wzs and spent countless hours in Ilum farming valor and you basically want be to have gained no advantage from it? makes sense. I hear thats the system pokemon online is using too...

The more brackets we have, the lower our coms per hour. Wouldn't you rather lose three matches and win one match in an hour rather than have zero matches in an hour?

As part of this effort, specifically for PvP, we are also working on changes that will reduce the gear related power difference between new characters at level 50 and players in full PvP gear. We feel that at the current time, this difference is too high.


Been playing this game from release (5 days early) so I am almost valor 67 now. If someone started tomorrow and in 2 weeks made it to lvl 50 why should they have a CHANCE in hell against me besides maybe being a better player? I should be able to get huge crits and get hit for crap from him shouldnt I? He should need to work for his gear alittle bit IMO.

HOw much of a nerf are we talking when it comes to PVP gear. Should I just go to PVE full time? Is that gear going to be better for me now?

The same thing happed to Rift they nerfed PVP gear and how hard skills hit in PVP and the game died 3 weeks later.

I hope your taking a LONG look at this Bioware our on thin ICE.


Buff Juggs

The Gear Grind fest is what keeps, or not, people playing. Why should there be different gear for PVP and PVE? Expertise? Big woof. How about better rewards? Oh, yeah, that's the gear thing. On the one hand, people talk a lot about team work, but in practice it's about GodMode in order to "own" others. Sure there is a need to have something to work for--currently, outside Huttball, there is nothing. So, gear with expertise. A lot of people join guilds to get the gear, then leave--seen it too often (Ninja Raider video anyone). Seen any guild groups trying to squash the fields? No? Oh, one or two...sorry.

The way around the new 50s getting ganked is to go in as an organized group--yeah, organized group in an MMO what a concept--and gank them back. Team work effectively and even those epeeners will leave in fear crying they shouldn't get owned....

You know what might make Huttball really mean something--Rugby, football, Huttball what's the difference--is to have an ability to form "real" teams that play a season and then championships. Oh, yeah, that's kinda like arena, we don't have that. I would like to see it though. "The One" takes on "Sabres for Hire" in the first season playoffs...rewards galore--and not just valor and credits. Well, lots of credits, and valor, but more too.

Back on topic--the system should probably remain the same while incorporating more rewarding content for geared and non-geared (Oh yeah, geared [Varcity]; non-geared [reserve]. But that would involve making PvP a real dsedicated team effort. However, it would eliminate some of the issues with "balance"--I hate that idea. Skill should be more important than merely gear.

Patton: "They have stronger armor and more powerful guns, but we have numbers and the will to win on our side."

Tiger Tank Commander: "Man, he hacked! I'm in a Panther and that little Sherman owned me! It ain't fair! I want balance."

How do you beat a Tiger tank, blast it in the rear. How do you beat a geared 50 with non-geared 50--team work, and a lot of guts.

But nerfing is never the answer.