What does the 1-49 bracket teach us about PVP gear?

claimable keeps and towers that you can display your guild heraldry from.

money. PvP kills should always be worth good money.

titles

you get the picture.

Yes, so why not have progression for the PVE side and score boards for the PvP side. Atm progression or not, all the PvP at 50 is, is a bunch of guild premades all with Battlemaster / champ gear ****** under geared random players. Who are a mix of noobs and guys who don't wanna listen to whiny elitist players on a vent channel. Which is the category I fall into.

If the current top PvP'ers had any honor or were really any good, they would be for a score / ranking system, where you get gear for looks not incredible stat bonuses to make killing someone without that benefit easy. Where is the fun in 8 geared guys with 2x health, 2x heals, 2x expertise ****** some noobs unless they are just trolls and cowards.

Think about it.

The 10-49 bracket teaches us that Sorc/Sages are considered OP since they are well over half of these new rerolls. I am not saying they are OP, but most people must think they are since they are by far the most common advanced classes I see in the lower bracket.

I'm honestly surprised BW went this route, considering the epic fail pvp gear created in Rift as recently as a few months before the launch of Swtor. Why do they think everybody jumped ship to come here? Do devs not pay attention to the mistakes of their competitors?

1-49 better? LOL That's rich. In 1-49 I die if anyone so much as sneezes at me. And I'm a Powertech.

On my level 50. I can actually survive for a few second so that way PvP is more meaningful then "lol I can burst you down in 2 seconds flat".

While I'm not going to argue against the fact that PVP gear is a bit overboard, trying to claim that the level 1-49 bracket is better "balanced" is just silly.

The level 49 has a clear advantage over the level 20 even with bolster in place.

I have been PVPing for around 14 years. And I hate the whiny elitist gamers more then anyone. What's worse is they are rarely even any good.

all i have read from these forums about all the other mmos is that the gear disnt
matter but skills(actual skills not a persons skill but the characters) and the longer you played the better they got, which is the same thing we have now in a different manor and you guys cry

just because you dont like the system doesnt meen others dont and right now its their time, and im sure there where people who hated those games so please stop making post about how bad you are and you hate having to grind gear which is all an mmo is, grinding gear, what route you take is up to you

a system where you can loot the corpse does not work in a pve game

You made an attempt to do so. I don't feel you debunked anything. The expiriences of people getting thrashed by people who have more gear then them already prove this is not the case. Bioware also recognizes the problem. And they have access to the numbers more then you or I.

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11-49 PvP is just a lot of fun. It doesn't involve a huge grind, it is just there to allow you to experience PvP without needing to stress about gear. And while 11 may be slightly too low, it can still be a pleasant change and you even though you lack abilities you still feel more of a match to opponents than you do as a fresh 50 with no gear.

The thing is though you NEED rewards for playing the game, but in PvP terms these rewards should not be gear. PvP should be about class knowledge, skill and opponent wekness exploitation NOT just about who has more time to grind gear.

There needs to be ways of separating out players and rewarding them for their efforts but having it purely based on gear isn't what you want as it just removes all fun from the game for those without the gear and only keep the saddo's at maximum gear happy if they enjoy beatign down on people who can't fight back since i'm fairly sure most skilled players would prefer to have some competition than just farm noobies.

At least, if nothign else, create bands of competition to stop the very best PvP geared players getting pitted against those who dinged 50 an hour ago and are essentiall Bantha Fodder to them.