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If you haven't beat the end game content, how is there lack of end game content?

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If you haven't beat the end game content, how is there lack of end game content?
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Zyanzor
02.06.2012 , 04:42 AM | #91
Quote: Originally Posted by Malice_Nihilim View Post
Its easy to beat. Just because you haven't done the same dungeon AGAIN on Nightmare mode (same mobs, same fights, more HP on bosses) doesn't mean you should desire to either.

Operations with multiple settings, so that they can continue to use 2 of them, is kinda a waste. HM FP's are all on farm. Am I missing some gear pieces? sure. Do I really care anymore about them? not really, do I really want to do EV a 20 more times to hope for a drop? not particularly. The only thing restricting success at that point is dungeon timers, not the difficulty and entertainment value of the end game content.

World of Warcraft has 10million subs, Dungeon Finder, cross realm servers and DPS in that game still wait 25-45mins in que for a dungeon. SWTOR has less than a quarter subs compared to WoW so you have to expect the long wait for groups.

Another example on the raid difficultly and the repetativeness. WoW has the same thing, normal mode and heroic mode. SWTOR took it a step further and added a nightmare mode for the seriously hardcore. I don't see anything wrong with that.

Another thing to keep in mind, SWTOR is just over a month old and it took 3 years to make so you can't expect 7 years of content in that short amount of time. I mean granted SWTOR already made mmo history by breaking the record for most subs at launch. People just need to give this game time to develope.

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Graburr
02.06.2012 , 04:43 AM | #92
Quote: Originally Posted by Chromiie View Post
The quote from this interview here is really why had high hopes for crafting.
which is funny since schematics are BOP and the item itself is BOP as well. I'd really like to know that's going on in their dev meetings.

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Graburr
02.06.2012 , 04:45 AM | #93
Quote: Originally Posted by Zyanzor View Post

Another thing to keep in mind, SWTOR is just over a month old and it took 3 years to make so you can expect 7 years of content in that short amount of time. I mean granted SWTOR already made mmo history by breaking the record for most subs at launch. People just need to give this game time to develope.
that comparison is flawed, always. unless you count vanilla/TBC/LK instances as "endgame content".

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Zyanzor
02.06.2012 , 04:45 AM | #94
Quote: Originally Posted by Graburr View Post
which is funny since schematics are BOP and the item itself is BOP as well. I'd really like to know that's going on in their dev meetings.
I get BoE schematics from Slicing. There are BoE schematics all over the Market....

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Chromiie
02.06.2012 , 04:47 AM | #95
Quote: Originally Posted by Graburr View Post
which is funny since schematics are BOP and the item itself is BOP as well. I'd really like to know that's going on in their dev meetings.
Exactly I can make Dalerian gear but it's all 126 gear which people won't bother with.
Quote: Originally Posted by Zyanzor View Post
I get BoE schematics from Slicing. There are BoE schematics all over the Market....
Well the problem with that is at max level they are pointless because you can just get commendations, run hardmodes or pvp to get better gear then anything I can craft.
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We don't have friendly fire in The Old Republic for a simple reason: a lot of players are, well... idiots. I don't mean you, of course, dear reader

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Zyanzor
02.06.2012 , 04:50 AM | #96
Quote: Originally Posted by Graburr View Post
that comparison is flawed, always. unless you count vanilla/TBC/LK instances as "endgame content".
Of course. I'm comparing WoWs 7 years of content to Swtor's month. Its flawed because you're right, you can't compare a game that's been out for 7 years to a game that is only a month old but I see everyone in this general forums doing it on a daily basis. Everyone expects everything WoW has day one of SWTOR launch. They are flawed and blinded.

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Chromiie
02.06.2012 , 04:53 AM | #97
Quote: Originally Posted by Zyanzor View Post
Of course. I'm comparing WoWs 7 years of content to Swtor's month. Its flawed because you're right, you can't compare a game that's been out for 7 years to a game that is only a month old but I see everyone in this general forums doing it on a daily basis. Everyone expects everything WoW has day one of SWTOR launch. They are flawed and blinded.
No you are flawed and blinded. Old Republic was released Decemer 2011 NOT 2004. Old Republic has to compete with what WoW has NOW not before. Other MMO's launch and are treated the same look at Guild Wars 2, Tera and Archeage they are trying something different because they obviously can't compete with WoW.
Quote: Originally Posted by DamionSchubert View Post
We don't have friendly fire in The Old Republic for a simple reason: a lot of players are, well... idiots. I don't mean you, of course, dear reader

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Zyanzor
02.06.2012 , 04:55 AM | #98
Quote: Originally Posted by Chromiie View Post
Not schematics from Ops.
Ahh...I did not know this.

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DigitalPrime
02.06.2012 , 04:55 AM | #99
Quote: Originally Posted by Malice_Nihilim View Post
Its easy to beat. Just because you haven't done the same dungeon AGAIN on Nightmare mode (same mobs, same fights, more HP on bosses) doesn't mean you should desire to either.

Operations with multiple settings, so that they can continue to use 2 of them, is kinda a waste. HM FP's are all on farm. Am I missing some gear pieces? sure. Do I really care anymore about them? not really, do I really want to do EV a 20 more times to hope for a drop? not particularly. The only thing restricting success at that point is dungeon timers, not the difficulty and entertainment value of the end game content.
Welcome to PVE raiding!

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Chromiie
02.06.2012 , 04:57 AM | #100
Quote: Originally Posted by Zyanzor View Post
Ahh...I did not know this.
Scratch that. I just checked my raid schematics are BoE but the thing is it's not even equivalent to raid gear it's 126 which is worse then hardmode raid gear which is what my guild does currently.
Quote: Originally Posted by DamionSchubert View Post
We don't have friendly fire in The Old Republic for a simple reason: a lot of players are, well... idiots. I don't mean you, of course, dear reader
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