When PvE Gear > PvP Gear For PvP

What happens when PvE gear gives more theoretical hit points than PvP gear as well as more 'power' either damage and/or healing at the same time?

I have read at least one post detailing that Sentinel/Marauder is currently at that point. (http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=256372)

With the 'nurf' to PvP gear I can't help but wounder with rated PvP is this BW way of forcing PvP players into harder PvE content?

As a PvP minded player if my fears materialize in the form of needing to farm Nightmare/Hard-mode PvE content it would be a big enough slap in the face to just leave and wait for another game.

What are you're thoughts?

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http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=260731

"...specifically for PvP, we are also working on changes that will reduce the gear related power difference between new characters at level 50 and players in full PvP gear. We feel that at the current time, this difference is too high." -GZ

"We have no intention of forcing PvP players to do Operations and vice versa." -GZ

You draw your own conclusions.

Agree, i will do the same.

Me assassin, my guildmate powertech.

We dueled alot yesterday, both in full champ + some BM. win/loss ratio 50/50. So its balance and our skill the same.

Then he tried out full columni with 3 rakate. The win/loss ratio stayed the same. He was just as strong against my pvp gear with that gear. So ... makes me sad.

The whole pvp gear race is what has ruined this game.

I don't care if the raid master or the battle master has more stats.

When a new 50 joins a WZ with an average of 12k HP then sees his mirror class with 18.5k HP who takes 30% less damage and deals 30%(15%from expertise but remember its a multiplyer on defence rating and other base stats) more and is expected to put up a challenge I laugh.

The comparisons you are making just prove this is Gear v Gear not P v P.

i use PvE gear in PvP...way better.

especially when 2 pieces gives me +15% Crit. chance with my spam...eliminator BH PvE armor needs to be changed...switch the 2 and 4 gear bonuses and problem solved.

Welcome to mmo's, please exit the QQ bus.

So nerf something already weaker than something... so that it`s pointless to get, because newer 50s get owned? guess what? I got destroyed too, I got beat up. But I took it, and I dealt with the RNG, and I got my gear and I`m happy with where I am in damage, even with my odd 2 greens and cent/champ mix.

people want gear so you`re changing the way you get cent/champ tokens from bags, people hate getting killed at newly 50 because, LIKE IN ANY GAME, you have to WORK for gear or you get killed easier.

people just expect to walk into a PvP WZ as a new fresh 50, and compete with people who have been playing as a 50 for a lot longer, so they whine and complain and guess what? They make gear easier to get, they are going to nerf PvP gear.

am I the only one who realizes how INCREDIBLY STUPID it is to think someone should be able to just hit 50 and compete with people who have been playing and worked for their gear? you want everything handed to you? Jeez...

Unfortunately this is a gear based game. Some games might choose to give every max level player the exact same gear, this one does not.

When a game like TOR gets to a point PvE gear is better than PvP gear for PvP that is a very bad place.

I guess they figured that not many will be farming Nightmare content, so few will have that gear. Bt guess what BW, yu are pushing the problem further down the line, once PvP guilds/players start facing full Nightmare geared players you will have on your hands a much bigger problem.

The solution is very simple, give those 'hard core PvP' players a place in game to call home. They will not join the WZ's you have today and casuals will be playing against casuals!

PvP gear needs a lot of work.


Just look at the Juggernaut War Leader gear and Vindicator gear. The War Leader gets 480hp more for then Vindication while having 48 less strength.


This make no sense that the tanking set's HP increase is completely negligible....

correction: welcome to post-wow themepark mmolite

gear is the carrot and everyone gets guaranteed epics by being forced to clear content.

They never stated they will nerf PvP gear, please get your facts right.