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Pyro Powertechs OP?

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Pyro Powertechs OP?

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cashogy
02.05.2012 , 11:21 PM | #31
whoa now, tracer missile AND pyro is over powered? bad players need their posting privileges revoked.

i play pyro merc. as a combo, the highest possily amount of damage i can land "simultaneously" is about 8k. Thermal Det can crit easily 4-5k, and Rail Shot can crit easily 3-3.5k.

rail shot is white damage. its weapon based, and is affected by all forms of mitigation. thermal det is tech damage, so gets hit with less forms of mitigation.

in order for a pyro to be this devastating, we need the thermal det skill, which is the 31pt ability in the pyro line and the 4pc bonus from PvP eliminator set (+15% crit to rail shot). there is a very large investment involved in being able to play pyro to its greatest potential, whereas arsenal spec needs only tracer missile and is basically good to go.

there are no overpowered classes. there are overpowered players
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DarthFryze
02.05.2012 , 11:22 PM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by mistrfantasy View Post
you don't NEED to wear the PT set. Last i checked you can still wear the merc set which gives the same stats.
doesnt the 4pc PT pvp set give a bonus to railshot crit tho?

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DarthFryze
02.05.2012 , 11:24 PM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by cashogy View Post
whoa now, tracer missile AND pyro is over powered? bad players need their posting privileges revoked.

i play pyro merc. as a combo, the highest possily amount of damage i can land "simultaneously" is about 8k. Thermal Det can crit easily 4-5k, and Rail Shot can crit easily 3-3.5k.

rail shot is white damage. its weapon based, and is affected by all forms of mitigation. thermal det is tech damage, so gets hit with less forms of mitigation.

in order for a pyro to be this devastating, we need the thermal det skill, which is the 31pt ability in the pyro line and the 4pc bonus from PvP eliminator set (+15% crit to rail shot). there is a very large investment involved in being able to play pyro to its greatest potential, whereas arsenal spec needs only tracer missile and is basically good to go.

there are no overpowered classes. there are overpowered players
you didnt read my title did you? POWERTECH. **** with your tracermissiles you merc :P

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cashogy
02.05.2012 , 11:24 PM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthFryze View Post
you didnt read my title did you? POWERTECH. **** with your tracermissiles you merc :P
the difference between powertech and mercenary are little to none when theyre both spec'd PYROTECH. it is a shared skill tree, not tied to advanced class.

i am spec'd pyro. tracer missile is for bads
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Greennunu
02.05.2012 , 11:25 PM | #35
If you get hit by railshot for more than 4k then you need to put on more PvP gear. I haven't read much on theory crafting, but personally I have only ever hit 4166 damage on a rail shot, against a sage who probably has close to 0 expertise. Normally I hit 3.2k crit that sometimes goes to 3.6-3.8k. I am geared in Champ gear with the 2x impalnt and 1 ear and a BM mainhand.

Will this damage increase once I get full BM? sure but only slightly. Of course on a lucky streak I have done a TD>RS>RP>RS that crits every time and knock someone from full to almost nothing, but those don't happen that often, when it does it is very sweet. But most of the time it's me spamming the crap out of Flame burst and then throttling it down with gun attack to ease off my heat.
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MatAuc
02.05.2012 , 11:25 PM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthFryze View Post
Just wondering what the pvp community thinks of PT Pyros. My guildie, who has all pvp gear (mix of centurion and champion, mostly champion) said he got wrecked before he could even really do anything to the PT. Granted, he plays a sniper, but hes a beast of a pvper, having gladiator for several seasons on several toons in wow.
Didn't read any answer, but your title kinda made me laugh... Are people really looking to find an OP class that much?

This game is pretty well balanced right. Maybe a lil adjustement here and there but overall, its great. You hear this a lot : If you QQ this class is OP, its because you're not good and blame the class agaisnt you instead of yourself. You know why you hear it a lot? Because its true.

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DarthFryze
02.05.2012 , 11:26 PM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by cashogy View Post
the difference between powertech and mercenary are little to none when theyre both spec'd PYROTECH. it is a shared skill tree, not tied to advanced class.

i am spec'd pyro. tracer missile is for bads
again, as the title reads "Pyro POWERTECH" not discussing merc pyrotechs, but powertech pyros :P

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Xsorus
02.05.2012 , 11:28 PM | #38
Rofl, Pyro Powertech is basically the equiv of a Battlemaster Bag, most of the time it's champion comm, every now and again it's a string of BM Comm ;o)

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KorwinOfAmber
02.05.2012 , 11:28 PM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by cashogy View Post
the difference between powertech and mercenary are little to none when theyre both spec'd PYROTECH. it is a shared skill tree, not tied to advanced class.

i am spec'd pyro. tracer missile is for bads
How about 90% armor penetration on rail shot? At least know your **** if you gonna post and dont tell us about "rail shot being white damage which is easely penetrated!". And yeah, people talk about Powertech. Mercs have their own issues.

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cashogy
02.05.2012 , 11:29 PM | #40
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthFryze View Post
again, as the title reads "Pyro POWERTECH" not discussing merc pyrotechs, but powertech pyros :P
they are essentially one in the same. pyrotech is a shared skill tree between mercenary and powertech. the main difference between the two is that powertech's rail shot has 90% armor penetration, while merc's has a max of 65%. powertech pyros also depend on rocket punch and flame burst for reseting cooldown on rail shot, while mercenary pyros depend on power shot and unload.

by all means though, continue to prove how ignorant you are
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