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NOW = 1.7 Million Active Subscribers | 3 Months from now = Guess What

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NOW = 1.7 Million Active Subscribers | 3 Months from now = Guess What

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Touchbass
02.05.2012 , 09:39 PM | #521
Quote: Originally Posted by Drewser View Post
Again it is not even close. Pro Bowl is meaningless, whereas getting 1m subs is not. (it does not ensure success, but it is certainly a very good start.)

If you wanted to at least make a reasonable comparison, it would be like going 14-2 in the regular season and losing your first playoff game at home.
I actually prefer your analogy more :P My pats
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Additc
02.05.2012 , 09:39 PM | #522
Quote: Originally Posted by Touchbass View Post
If WoW was released in todays market conditions, it would of taken the record, you can't dispute that. No MMORPG can hold that kind of retention, unless the game grows it'll drop to around 700k-1.1million players
Warcraft had a smaller audiance before its launch and was more broken then ToR. If you were there at the very launch of WoW then you were given about a month free. Not because they pulled the servers down to patch but because the servers went down.

WoW didnt even break a million till after a year. It had less subscriptions then TOR has supposedly lost.

Its crafting was no better.

Took multiple patches to even complete its 40 man raids. Which in comparison to those TOR reins supreme.

TOR has a que for battlegrounds/warzones. How long was it before WoW added battlegrounds? How long before they added a que anywhere for them?

Even tho TORs world PvP is broken how long was it before WoW tried the same? Silthius. YAAAAY!!! I get to run some glowing sand across a map.

No if WoW how it was at launch was put up today it wouldnt even merit your trolling attempts. Not even a blip on your radar because you would still be itching the big AAA game of the year and here you are.

If the WoW that exsists today was to launched today... well lets not kid ourselves. No one develops a game for 12+ years and it would of been launched earlier and still had a pleathora of bugs.

HAHAHAHA If WoW was launched today. Rift in under a year has done more then WoW did in two.

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Additc
02.05.2012 , 09:40 PM | #523
<----- me with rose tinted glasses "Things in the past are so much better then new things"

Blah blah blah

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Touchbass
02.05.2012 , 09:42 PM | #524
Quote: Originally Posted by Additc View Post
Warcraft had a smaller audiance before its launch and was more broken then ToR. If you were there at the very launch of WoW then you were given about a month free. Not because they pulled the servers down to patch but because the servers went down.

WoW didnt even break a million till after a year. It had less subscriptions then TOR has supposedly lost.

Its crafting was no better.

Took multiple patches to even complete its 40 man raids. Which in comparison to those TOR reins supreme.

TOR has a que for battlegrounds/warzones. How long was it before WoW added battlegrounds? How long before they added a que anywhere for them?

Even tho TORs world PvP is broken how long was it before WoW tried the same? Silthius. YAAAAY!!! I get to run some glowing sand across a map.

No if WoW how it was at launch was put up today it wouldnt even merit your trolling attempts. Not even a blip on your radar because you would still be itching the big AAA game of the year and here you are.

If the WoW that exsists today was to launched today... well lets not kid ourselves. No one develops a game for 12+ years and it would of been launched earlier and still had a pleathora of bugs.

HAHAHAHA If WoW was launched today. Rift in under a year has done more then WoW did in two.
/facepalm
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Straegen
02.05.2012 , 09:55 PM | #525
Aside from a surge when the promos start this game has likely seen its highest subscription numbers unlike the WoW arc. Not that this game doesn't have the same or more potential as WoW but SWToR was dated on release unlike WoW. If this game hit 2-3 years ago, it would be a monster by now. However new titles will come shortly with better graphics, truly innovative game play and while not having the massive story lines of SWToR they will probably succeed in being more fun and less run.

All that said, this game has been a success till now by nearly every reasonable measure and will likely continue for some time. IMO SWToR lives up to the Bioware name but certainly not their best title.
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JohnExponent
02.05.2012 , 09:56 PM | #526
Quote: Originally Posted by touchbass View Post
/facepalm
lol
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Jswizzle
02.05.2012 , 09:59 PM | #527
If WOW launched today nobody would really care. They haven't made a Warcraft game in almost 10 years. It's just been so long since Warcraft 3. Chuck Norris can only do so much, without the brand name WOW wouldn't of ever been huge. Maybe if it launched today it would be World of Starcraft, that makes more sense.

I feel like TOR pretty much can't miss right now. They are following the same formula which created WOW. Capitalize on a wildly popular brand name, and market the **** out of it. When bioware finishes dealing with some of the games issues, and adds more content the game will stay steady at 2 mill subs throughout the year.

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Droidist
02.05.2012 , 10:01 PM | #528
Out of the three friends I started with, I am the only one left playing... so hopefully more people join or they expand single player options.
A force of one, yes, the solo player!

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Toweleeeie
02.05.2012 , 10:01 PM | #529
Quote: Originally Posted by BrandonSM View Post
The mechanics of this game can't be used in a non-SW game. I mean, the mechanics revolve around the structure and such.
So you are saying that the combat mechanics would only work in a SW game? So the abilities in this game that have the exact same name and action as WoW would only work in a SW game? /facepalm
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Touchbass
02.05.2012 , 10:02 PM | #530
I'm still really interested in how this game is going to fair, bashing aside I'd like to know people think on 2 key aspects

1) Was this type of model a succcess? It's no longer working for WoW as it's trying to diverisfy BUT WoW is an old game so that conclusion cannot be backed up.

2) What kind of content are the majority looking for these days? How do you sustain them?
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