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Please, Don't Roll on Items for Another Class in Your Team

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Please, Don't Roll on Items for Another Class in Your Team

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CoolSprog
02.05.2012 , 03:26 PM | #571
If you cant see the difference between the pixels played by people and the ones played by...no one, i suggest schooling.

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jmdatcs
02.05.2012 , 03:40 PM | #572
Cut the companion needers some slack. If they "need" to gear their companion with anything other than kind of near to level greens to get through the non-heroics, they suck really, really bad. Just be glad they didn't cause you to wipe on the fight.

Seriously though, in all the discussions I've seen about this, I haven't seen anyone point out how unimportant blue, and especially purple, companion gear is. If you really do "need" it, you are all kinds of suck.

Maybe someone has said it, but I haven't seen it (admittedly I haven't read any where near all of the posts on this, but who has the time?).
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sjmc
02.05.2012 , 03:57 PM | #573
Quote: Originally Posted by jmdatcs View Post
Seriously though, in all the discussions I've seen about this, I haven't seen anyone point out how unimportant blue, and especially purple, companion gear is. If you really do "need" it, you are all kinds of suck.
It is possible that some classes find their companions to be more useful that others?

My smuggler healer relies on Akaavi Spar to both tank and dps. With good armor, she takes damage less quickly -- which reduces the amount of healing she needs. Putting good armor on myself helps less since I try not to take hits past the beginning of the battle. With improved stats, my companion's dps goes up and she has more health and defense. With improved stats, my smuggler has bigger heals which crit more often (and more burst dps).

With good gear on both myself, I can take on harder enemies, perhaps do quests a level or two earlier. If it is a choice between myself and my companion, my companion will often get more benefit from better gear (which I increase even further with presence stims).
Also, a poorly-equipped companion would be at a disadvantage in PVP to those that are better geared.

I could probably survive my next battle without any particular loot item that drops. But my next battle will be easier if I upgrade either myself or my companion. Since I am wearing level 40 pvp armor with relatively recent mods, it is more likely that any potentially-upgrading armor that drops will be for my companion (especially since I don't particularly want new armor for myself). I don't want to claim a piece of (upgrade) purple armor for myself which I will replace when I get back to the fleet and buy some mods for my current armor.

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Vlacke
02.05.2012 , 04:05 PM | #574
Quote: Originally Posted by jmdatcs View Post
Cut the companion needers some slack. If they "need" to gear their companion with anything other than kind of near to level greens to get through the non-heroics, they suck really, really bad. Just be glad they didn't cause you to wipe on the fight.

Seriously though, in all the discussions I've seen about this, I haven't seen anyone point out how unimportant blue, and especially purple, companion gear is. If you really do "need" it, you are all kinds of suck.
Haha, this is so true.

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Setanian
02.05.2012 , 04:26 PM | #575
Quote: Originally Posted by jmdatcs View Post
Cut the companion needers some slack. If they "need" to gear their companion with anything other than kind of near to level greens to get through the non-heroics, they suck really, really bad. Just be glad they didn't cause you to wipe on the fight.

Seriously though, in all the discussions I've seen about this, I haven't seen anyone point out how unimportant blue, and especially purple, companion gear is. If you really do "need" it, you are all kinds of suck.

Maybe someone has said it, but I haven't seen it (admittedly I haven't read any where near all of the posts on this, but who has the time?).
Well, I'm guessing the same can be said of the player characters. They can get by perfectly well in greens too. Unless they are all kinds of suck too?
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jmdatcs
02.05.2012 , 05:11 PM | #576
Quote: Originally Posted by Setanian View Post
Well, I'm guessing the same can be said of the player characters. They can get by perfectly well in greens too. Unless they are all kinds of suck too?
You guess wrong.

Even if the content is doable for you, you might have a hard time getting a group to take you on most HMs and OPS. I think it's stupid but I've had a couple group leaders that wanted to inspect me to make sure I met whatever requirements they thought were needed for higher level HMs.

And that only matters if you are going to say greens are ok for high level HMs, but you're not going to say that just to try and advance your argument for being a ************, are you?
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crica
02.05.2012 , 07:03 PM | #577
Quote: Originally Posted by jmdatcs View Post
You guess wrong.

Even if the content is doable for you, you might have a hard time getting a group to take you on most HMs and OPS. I think it's stupid but I've had a couple group leaders that wanted to inspect me to make sure I met whatever requirements they thought were needed for higher level HMs.

And that only matters if you are going to say greens are ok for high level HMs, but you're not going to say that just to try and advance your argument for being a ************, are you?
if you and I both want to use the same item, and we BOTH helped to make the item drop, please enlighten us all as to why you think my contribution of helping to make the item drop doesn't warrant the exact same chance to win it as your contribution does?

sorry, but your wants are no more important then anyone else's wants in a video game

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AsheraII
02.05.2012 , 07:13 PM | #578
Quote: Originally Posted by jmdatcs View Post
You guess wrong.

Even if the content is doable for you, you might have a hard time getting a group to take you on most HMs and OPS. I think it's stupid but I've had a couple group leaders that wanted to inspect me to make sure I met whatever requirements they thought were needed for higher level HMs.

And that only matters if you are going to say greens are ok for high level HMs, but you're not going to say that just to try and advance your argument for being a ************, are you?
Wrong topic mate, we're talking oranges in leveling flashpoints here. That's quite a few days of playing away from HM's and Ops, which are only available at level cap. By the time you could either have in your Ops:
1) Someone who rolls need on every single shiny that gives him/her just one additional point in whatever stat while trashing the old thing he outrolled you on yesterday and which would still be a small upgrade to you.
2) Someone who's taken care of his character, giving it the looks he wants, and knows his way around item modifications and what stats go where and come where from, picking carefully that which benefits him (which would only be items with useful mods) instead of every shiny encountered "because it's for his class".
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sjmc
02.05.2012 , 07:28 PM | #579
Quote: Originally Posted by AsheraII View Post
Wrong topic mate, we're talking oranges in leveling flashpoints here.
Both companion gear and non-class-stat-armor-mod orange gear have the similar issue of not "qualifying" under some people's vision of "need". Some other things that I can think of that would not qualify, yet people might "want/need", might be mercenary commendations and spaceship parts.

Does anyone here think that you should be able to "need" on one of the things I listed above, but not others?

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itekazzawrrlic
02.05.2012 , 09:31 PM | #580
Quote: Originally Posted by CoolSprog View Post
If you cant see the difference between the pixels played by people and the ones played by...no one, i suggest schooling.
ummm I tell my companion who to attack and what to attack with, so i suggest you re evaluate your position cause reality doesn't agree.
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