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NOW = 1.7 Million Active Subscribers | 3 Months from now = Guess What

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NOW = 1.7 Million Active Subscribers | 3 Months from now = Guess What

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SDFX
02.05.2012 , 02:40 PM | #461
Ultimately, we are left with several big sounding numbers that were accurate at one time yet are currently vague enough to tell us nothing substantive in the now. Common investors feel good. Fans feel optimistic. The report is a freaking piece of cake to mollify the fat kid. It’s still too early to tell how the game is really preforming in sub retentions outside of saying this was a hugely successful launch with awesome initial sales.

If you want real numbers we can use right now, I think I know a spot or two that can be used to cut a hole in the EA building roof to bypass security late one night and have a way up there. Tonight might be good as it’s the Super Bowl. I need a database hacker and mission op caller to volunteer, I have the gear and the stun guns … (no, I am not serious but I realize I need to spell that out for some.)

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grueber
02.05.2012 , 02:54 PM | #462
People have shelled out $60 to play this for a month.

Most people do not want to admit they flushed $60 down the drain.

That there is so much unhappiness with the current state of swtor should be a big red flag to Bioware. Whether they can fix it or not in a timely manner....

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Strina
02.05.2012 , 03:06 PM | #463
Forums are sad place for this game. While everyone seams happy ingame, all I see here is whining.

Sigh...
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Emeda
02.05.2012 , 03:20 PM | #464
Quote: Originally Posted by Runeshard View Post

Yes that number does include people in their free month, but most of those 1.7 million are beyond that point. Regardless you can't simply discount those still in their free month. They state that the 300k that have not subscribed have either not started playing yet or have opted out. This may mean that they don't count people who have cancelled their accounts even if they are still in their free month, it may not mean this but it is possible.

Furthermore that does not change the fact that it's not 1.7 million since 31st Dec, it certainly doesn't mean that its gone down to 1 million now.
This is the issue in the bolded part.

They give you all the good looking numbers

2+ million sold
1.7 million active subs

and then for the bad numbers 300,000++ (remember it is more than not just 2 million) they add in a small amount of players that have not yet activated their accounts. They know exactly what this number is because you have to activate your account to play. So instead of giving a number that have quit the game they act as if a large portion of those players have actually not started playing yet.

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Jett-Rinn
02.05.2012 , 03:20 PM | #465
Quote: Originally Posted by Strina View Post
Forums are sad place for this game. While everyone seams happy ingame, all I see here is whining.

Sigh...
Yep and that is why Arenanet refuses to have any type of official forum. It's hilarious to listen to the GW2 Zealots bash TOR...but when GW2 is released there won't even be a technical or customer support forum to resolve or post issues....Arenanet will decide what bugs need fixing and what is a priority.

No one hates Star Wars as much as "Star Wars fans"

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Mushrumps
02.05.2012 , 03:23 PM | #466
Quote: Originally Posted by Jett-Rinn View Post
Yep and that is why Arenanet refuses to have any type of official forum. It's hilarious to listen to the GW2 Zealots bash TOR...but when GW2 is released there won't even be a technical or customer support forum to resolve or post issues....Arenanet will decide what bugs need fixing and what is a priority.

Because obviously SWTOR is doing a great job at customer support, am I right? Oh hello ticket that took 3 weeks to answer, only to be given an automated response . And Guild Wars has an unofficial forum from another website that the devs check. Derp. They just don't want to maintain and have deal with the trolls, so they let some other website do it. Genius, if you ask me.

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Runeshard
02.05.2012 , 03:26 PM | #467
Quote: Originally Posted by Emeda View Post
This is the issue in the bolded part.

They give you all the good looking numbers

2+ million sold
1.7 million active subs

and then for the bad numbers 300,000++ (remember it is more than not just 2 million) they add in a small amount of players that have not yet activated their accounts. They know exactly what this number is because you have to activate your account to play. So instead of giving a number that have quit the game they act as if a large portion of those players have actually not started playing yet.
They never say that a large portion of those 300k haven't activated their subscriptions yet, they simply state that those people are included in that number. Besides, anyone with two IQ points to rub together should be able to figure out that the number of players who simply haven't activated their key codes is miniscule. Regardless, 1.7 million out of 2 million is good going so far.
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Jett-Rinn
02.05.2012 , 03:30 PM | #468
Quote: Originally Posted by Mushrumps View Post
Because obviously SWTOR is doing a great job at customer support, am I right? Oh hello ticket that took 3 weeks to answer, only to be given an automated response . And Guild Wars has an unofficial forum from another website that the devs check. Derp. They just don't want to maintain and have deal with the trolls, so they let some other website do it. Genius, if you ask me.
Yet if Bioware did that folks would be saying how cheap they were herp.
Love the hypocrisy.
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Mushrumps
02.05.2012 , 03:33 PM | #469
Quote: Originally Posted by Jett-Rinn View Post
Yet if Bioware did that folks would be saying how cheap they were herp.
Love the hypocrisy.
Not really, how would you know people would say they're cheap? are you a time traveler O_O I would've thought it be better too if SWTOR didn't have an official forum, since it'll just be infested by trolls. even blizzard said they wished they didn't make an official forum, so your reasoning is a little lost on me :P

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WhiskyJax
02.05.2012 , 03:33 PM | #470
Quote: Originally Posted by Emeda View Post
This is the issue in the bolded part.

They give you all the good looking numbers

2+ million sold
1.7 million active subs

and then for the bad numbers 300,000++ (remember it is more than not just 2 million) they add in a small amount of players that have not yet activated their accounts. They know exactly what this number is because you have to activate your account to play. So instead of giving a number that have quit the game they act as if a large portion of those players have actually not started playing yet.
300 000 people as of Feb 1st either canceled or hasn't installed whats your point? As it sits right now the servers look pretty busy but people can't get it through their heads that all 1.7 people do not log in at once anymore then the 10million log into wow at once.

Who exactly is making these kind of numbers, ghosts?
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Over 239 million in-game hours, or over 332,000 months and over 27,000 years of in-game time
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