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Why are so many people against Arena in Swtor?

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Why are so many people against Arena in Swtor?

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Ulltramagns
02.04.2012 , 08:04 PM | #551
This is the truth, its really only people on the forums who are obsessed with the idea of a world pvp that can never exist or who would not even arena at all that are completely against arena in swtor. Also people do not want it to be the only way to get the best pvp gear. I find however from talking to people in game and not just forum trolls a lot of people actually would love arena.

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diogolp
02.04.2012 , 08:04 PM | #552
I love how people talk about "skill" in arenas. Yeah, it was just a coincidence that in most seasons a particular class set up mopped the floor with everyone else...
Just a big ol' coincidence that suddenly all top teams would be rogue mage priest... after all, it was all about skill, not class balance at all...

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Noctournys
02.04.2012 , 08:05 PM | #553
Quote: Originally Posted by Xenthum View Post
I'll do that, then they'll say "What? They stopped doing that in Wrath of the Lich King, **** idiot."
... no they didn't

You can reach the Conquest cap in about 10 games. The higher your rating, the higher your conquest cap, but also the more points you gain per win.

It's about 10 games to hit the Conquest cap.

It's still 10 games a week.
entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem
Also, 'cause im tired of talking about it:
http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...222960&page=11

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ursuul
02.04.2012 , 08:06 PM | #554
Quote: Originally Posted by Xenthum View Post
I played arena casually (15-20 games a week) all through Cataclysm and hovered in the 2450 (3s and 5s) range. No yelling at teammates occurred. I'm sorry that you have bad friends or bad experiences with arena, or are not good enough to compete. Luckily you can choose not to!
but that was just it. anyone without the gear could not "compete" in a bg against those with the gear.

PS what class did you play? who did you play with? how many times did you start a fresh team with no previous season glad gear half way through a season and hit 2450? how did you find your team mates? how many have you seen face to face in real life? i should not have to put a personal add on the forums to find people to carry me to a lvl of gear that keeps me from getting destroyed in a bg due to gear imballances. oh and i stopped playing in WOTLK so i have no idea how cataclysm was. everyone i know (actually know in real life) quit by then.
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RussSWE
02.04.2012 , 08:07 PM | #555
I would like arena in swtor, its fun and it adds alot of gameplay hours. Though before putting it ingame so should bioware focus on making what we got as perfect as they can first. Who cares if arena comes from WoW? I know people dont want WoW things in Swtor, but you cant deny that WoW had alot of great stuff in it.
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GarrettMickley
02.04.2012 , 08:10 PM | #556
I'm down with it as long as there is no Arena-only Weapons and Armor, and if there IS Weapons and Armor that you can ONLY get from Arena...you should ONLY be able to use it in Arena.
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RealAeiouy
02.04.2012 , 08:11 PM | #557
Having single queue and premade ranked and unrankdf brackets is all that is needed, for Warzones.

Arenas are the most dumb downed form of pvp possible.
I put the AssAssIn assassin.

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ursuul
02.04.2012 , 08:13 PM | #558
Quote: Originally Posted by GarrettMickley View Post
I'm down with it as long as there is no Arena-only Weapons and Armor, and if there IS Weapons and Armor that you can ONLY get from Arena...you should ONLY be able to use it in Arena.
why is it that every post that supports arena doesn't come with this? i get the feeling there are 2 types of people who dont want arena. those who are worried about spending the devs time on arena instead of something else. and those who want to make sure we never end up with a WoW pvp gear system. Im the latter.
Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody the power, the other to crave it.

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RealAeiouy
02.04.2012 , 08:15 PM | #559
Quote: Originally Posted by GarrettMickley View Post
I'm down with it as long as there is no Arena-only Weapons and Armor, and if there IS Weapons and Armor that you can ONLY get from Arena...you should ONLY be able to use it in Arena.
I would prefer they do more creative and advanced stuff like huttball leagues. But if they ever added arenas I agree with what you said.

I don't think any competive pvp play should proffer open world or regular Warzone benefits. If they don't make the rewards or make them only usable in those environments, whatever.
I put the AssAssIn assassin.

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Donnach
02.04.2012 , 08:20 PM | #560
Quote: Originally Posted by oozi View Post
reason i quit swtor. turns out all the whiny pve'ers are the target audience of this game. I dont care about story I want competitive pvp that is fluid.
Then you made the right choice. The story is the main part of this game, and it is very obvious that the devs made the class stories and progression the priority during development.

As for the balancing questions I don't know why more games don't go the Guild Wars route and completely segregate the two. For those of you unfamiliar, there was a pvp version of a skill and a pve version. I would assume that the same could be implemented here for arena/non-arena skills. Though I do not see the appeal of arena/tdm at all in this game, others sure, but SWTOR doesn't give me that vibe.

Moreover, there are so many bugs the devs need to fix first, and a whole lot of pvp balancing. Even when this is completed though you'd probably just go up against sorc/sorc as that seems to be the most commonly played class.

tl;dr PvP, PvE, and Arena need to be completely separated in terms of balance. If this is done most fears over Arena would evaporate.
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