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Why are so many people against Arena in Swtor?

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Why are so many people against Arena in Swtor?

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Amyas
02.04.2012 , 06:54 PM | #531
Because it ruins open world PVP. If you want to fight one vs one duel. I am so sick of MMO's making world pvp worthless by forcing every one to enter a que to get the good gear.

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Kaliem
02.04.2012 , 06:56 PM | #532
Quote: Originally Posted by Amyas View Post
Because it ruins open world PVP. If you want to fight one vs one duel. I am so sick of MMO's making world pvp worthless by forcing every one to enter a que to get the good gear.
World pvp is non-existent anyway.

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Swaggz
02.04.2012 , 06:57 PM | #533
Quote: Originally Posted by Xenthum View Post
They're closer to 8 million. But anyway, 2% there is more than 10% of our players.
Scoff all you want. Blizzard doesn't care how much you laugh at their billions upon billions of dollars, frankly.
Then why hasn't my stock gone up considerably over the past 2 years???

Quote: Originally Posted by Xenthum View Post
No, we're talking about attracting those players to this game. So adding 250,000 to our 1.7 million.
Obviously some are already here and some wouldn't stay, but adding half of that is a 6% increase in subs. Nobody is going to leave over additional, optional PVP content as long as the gear is the same or lesser to currently available gear. So it's 100% win situation.

ADDING PvP CONTENT IS NEVER BAD. End of story. It's how you implement it.
I'm all for adding PvP content, but adding it exactly how it is in WoW is something that seems to have alot of resistance against. A compromise on the reward system for it, as many have posted/suggested would be a great way to start an Arena system in this game. It just seems that those for an arena system are completely against this type of reward system, yet those completely against or iffy about Arena seem to open up a bit more about it. Sounds like a compromise should be made to get the most out of it.

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Noctournys
02.04.2012 , 06:57 PM | #534
Quote: Originally Posted by Xenthum View Post
So you're saying that attracting and keeping 250,000 people (that's 12%, at absolute minimum, of SWTOR's playerbase btw) is a bad thing?
.. except it wont attract that many people, and trying to say that it will is absurd.

It will attract a similar percentage. So.. you know.. 3%.

And it will likely alienate a relatively equal percentage... just like WoW's "competitive" PvP did.
entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem
Also, 'cause im tired of talking about it:
http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...222960&page=11

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Noctournys
02.04.2012 , 06:58 PM | #535
Quote: Originally Posted by Amyas View Post
Because it ruins open world PVP. If you want to fight one vs one duel. I am so sick of MMO's making world pvp worthless by forcing every one to enter a que to get the good gear.
Much as i dont want to ever see arenas, this isnt the reason why. World PvP ruins world PvP, an has in every MMO.
entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem
Also, 'cause im tired of talking about it:
http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...222960&page=11

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Avianpixie
02.04.2012 , 07:00 PM | #536
Quote:
Because it ruins open world PVP.
Actually it doesn't.

What ruins World PvP is easy access to Instanced PvP.

Warzones - Instanced PvP, easily accessed via the Queue Station, which can be used at any time at any location.
Ilum - Instanced PvP, no matter how much you argue it isn't, requires relocation to the planet Ilum and a Flight Run to the PvP designated zone.

Both of which offers rewards that World PvP doesn't.

World PvP is already dead. Arena wouldn't change that. Just saying.
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ursuul
02.04.2012 , 07:15 PM | #537
Quote: Originally Posted by Ezzem View Post
Arena creates another dimension to an MMO, its highly competetive and if Bioware wants PvP in this game to get any kind of recognition, huttball aint gonna cut it, sry. PvP in this game as it stands is careface u just do them to get valor/gear thats all. Winning or loosing who cares aslong as u get ur medals.

arenas in wow was a giant success, and i bet it kept 100's of thousands of people interested in the game.

It also creates a separate community around it, people can upload theyr pvp movies from huttball as much as they want, but they dont mean anything at all. But a good arena movie ul see some skills and i bet it would get more people interested in the game aswell.
really? that's cool. will i see skill if i watch a video with a glad in full glad gear in a battleground? will i see epic skills if i watch a glad in full glad carry someone to 1700? or will i see gear dominate. again i would support arena if you never found yourself saying on vent "don't feel bad they outgeared the sh** out of us and are clearly carrying that one member of their team".
Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody the power, the other to crave it.

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Noctournys
02.04.2012 , 07:15 PM | #538
Quote: Originally Posted by Xenthum View Post
No, we're talking about attracting those players to this game. So adding 250,000 to our 1.7 million.
Obviously some are already here and some wouldn't stay, but adding half of that is a 6% increase in subs. Nobody is going to leave over additional, optional PVP content as long as the gear is the same or lesser to currently available gear. So it's 100% win situation.

ADDING PvP CONTENT IS NEVER BAD. End of story. It's how you implement it.
If you honestly believe that you have no concept of how something can poison a community and drive people away.
entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem
Also, 'cause im tired of talking about it:
http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...222960&page=11

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iceperson
02.04.2012 , 07:25 PM | #539
Quote: Originally Posted by Xenthum View Post
So you're saying that attracting and keeping 250,000 people (that's 12%, at absolute minimum, of SWTOR's playerbase btw) is a bad thing?
lol go login to a wow server right now and whisper someone in arena and ask them if they are having fun or if they're only there for their mandatory 10 matches a week.

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ursuul
02.04.2012 , 07:32 PM | #540
Quote: Originally Posted by iceperson View Post
lol go login to a wow server right now and whisper someone in arena and ask them if they are having fun or if they're only there for their mandatory 10 matches a week.
oh dear lord, i had forgotten about the 10 matches a week....... i just remember thinking over and over again.... "if i had my arena daggers i would have taken the last 5-10 percent of that guys health, and why am i facing ANOTHER sub 1700 team with their pvp weapons!?!?!?)

LOL i remember making a post years ago asking to have equal gear but give it a pink flower dress skin or some flag that says noob on your back. anything to just pvp with equal levels of gear.
Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody the power, the other to crave it.