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NOW = 1.7 Million Active Subscribers | 3 Months from now = Guess What

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NOW = 1.7 Million Active Subscribers | 3 Months from now = Guess What

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Greywatch
02.04.2012 , 05:03 AM | #121
Quote: Originally Posted by Nightfalll View Post
As more and more people hit endgame and find out that there is VERY LITTLE to do besides roll alts, people will start dropping.


Guaranteed...


750,000 would be a very high number...I doubt it will even be that much......And I am a fan of this game...


/shrug


No content, no subs.......

Bio failed on this
It boggles the mind how players expect the endgame of new MMORPGs to be fleshed out and expansive. >_>

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Gohlar
02.04.2012 , 05:04 AM | #122
Quote: Originally Posted by supafreak View Post
People seem to forget the game just launched.....it just launched.
Exactly. Not good.

Quote: Originally Posted by Greywatch View Post
It boggles the mind how players expect the endgame of new MMORPGs to be fleshed out and expansive. >_>
Fair enough, but they should have seen this coming. They get you to 50 very quickly in this game.

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supafreak
02.04.2012 , 05:06 AM | #123
Quote: Originally Posted by Gankdalf_ View Post
Ok then lets have a laugh.... It's 10:50am in the UK on a cold frosty Saturday morning and 11:50am around Europe and so on....this is quite a peak gaming time, most people off work/school. I know 3 weeks ago at this time the servers were full/heavy and I would sometimes have a queue.

Go see the server population...I just checked, not ONE heavy population server in all of Europe.

Yeah it's really booming.
server caps were doubled to handle the load, any server that is standard or light = heavy, very heavy a few weeks ago. different name thats all
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Samborino
02.04.2012 , 05:06 AM | #124
Quote: Originally Posted by Gohlar View Post
You are going to hurt yourself bending over backwards like this.

Careful.

But yes you are correct in that they are including nearly empty servers as "standard". The "light" server have what, 0 users?

Pretty bleak outlook if you ask me considering the status of the servers...
An average of 1 million unique users everyday, yes it certainly is looking very bleak when more than half of the subscription base logs on everyday.

I have nothing more to say to you, youve proven you cant straight up argue with me on the facts you just take your personal experience from one server and assume everything is like that because its like that for you (what a tiny mind you must have)

Obviously there are going to be some low pop servers. Im sorry you chose a **** server dude that must reallly suck but it doesnt mean that the whole outlook for the entire game and its 1.7 million subscibers is grimm. You could even just have faction imbalance on your server hence it being standard but yyour experience with it feeling empty.

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Turkman
02.04.2012 , 05:11 AM | #125
I will take a look into my crystal ball for you:

SWTOR is going to lose a lot of subscribers in the near future because many of the WoW veterans expected a more polished product (e.g. crass class imbalances, combat responsiveness) with many, if not all of the quality of life features WoW had (e.g. Dual Spec, Dungeon finder etc.) At least that is the impression I got from my guild of RL friends in which of around 20 starting members only the same 5-6 persons are regularly active now.

I've not talked to all of them yet, but of some I know that they've already gone back to WoW because of all these little and big things they loved there and couldn't find here.

Now, I'm far from saying that this game is going down, but I certainly think that it will lose a lot of its current subscribers if the coming patches won't bring said features a lot of players demand of such a game in 2012.

Of course this is a very subjective view of things and I will gladly stand corrected, as I personally still like the game and hope that I can convince some of my friends to come back and give it another try in a couple of months.

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Gohlar
02.04.2012 , 05:11 AM | #126
Quote: Originally Posted by Samborino View Post
An average of 1 million unique users everyday, yes it certainly is looking very bleak when more than half of the subscription base logs on everyday.

I have nothing more to say to you, youve proven you cant straight up argue with me on the facts you just take your personal experience from one server and assume everything is like that because its like that for you (what a tiny mind you must have)

Obviously there are going to be some low pop servers. Im sorry you chose a **** server dude that must reallly suck but it doesnt mean that the whole outlook for the entire game and its 1.7 million subscibers is grimm. You could even just have faction imbalance on your server hence it being standard but yyour experience with it feeling empty.
Well a decent chunk will leave, it happens in any mmo. One with no endgame will lose even more. The vast majority of servers are underpopulated, that's not really up for debate (unless you are in denial, which you are) so here is a fun quote from an interview with ea:

"EA has said that the game approaches break-even with just 500,000 paying subscribers, but only to cover its ongoing costs to operate the game, not nearly enough to earn back what the company invested to create the game.

The title will begin to be meaningfully profitable above 1 million subscribers EA said."

Game is in trouble. They spent way too much money and made a mediocre mmo. It's not going to shut down obviously, but new content is going to come very slowly and they still have a ton to fix.

It's not looking good. EA is losing money, the stock is dropping. Honestly man, wake up already...

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Samborino
02.04.2012 , 05:15 AM | #127
Quote: Originally Posted by Greywatch View Post
It boggles the mind how players expect the endgame of new MMORPGs to be fleshed out and expansive. >_>
Agreed look at WOTLK even (the last raid content i did for wow) they had naxx (rehashed content) and the sanctum with the dragon, and the wg pvp boss. Thats it, i finished that content long before ulduar came out, and they didnt even have hard modes back then but as more content and hard modes came out along with harder raiding content (which BW is planning as well, watch the interview with the end game director and total biscuit from a week or 2 ago) i suddenly wasnt getting through the content as fast and in fact i didnt even finish Grand trials of the crusader before icecrown citadel came out.

Also BW is planning on releasing a large content patch every 2 months which is at a much higher frequency then wow so they will catch up to a majority of their subscriber base very quickly. No mmo can keep up with someone that plays 8-12 hours everyday though. It just isnt possible.

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Safiir
02.04.2012 , 05:19 AM | #128
Quote: Originally Posted by Gohlar View Post
EA is losing money, the stock is dropping.
Indeed it dropped from 18.5 to 19.25

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Samborino
02.04.2012 , 05:19 AM | #129
Quote: Originally Posted by Gohlar View Post
Well a decent chunk will leave, it happens in any mmo. One with no endgame will lose even more. The vast majority of servers are underpopulated, that's not really up for debate (unless you are in denial, which you are) so here is a fun quote from an interview with ea:

"EA has said that the game approaches break-even with just 500,000 paying subscribers, but only to cover its ongoing costs to operate the game, not nearly enough to earn back what the company invested to create the game.

The title will begin to be meaningfully profitable above 1 million subscribers EA said."

Game is in trouble. They spent way too much money and made a mediocre mmo. It's not going to shut down obviously, but new content is going to come very slowly and they still have a ton to fix.

It's not looking good. EA is losing money, the stock is dropping. Honestly man, wake up already...
Lol i just had to respond to this, the stock dropped once when 1 analyst made a comment about subscribers that was completely unfounded, it dropped 3% the next day 2 more analysts came out with reports dismissing what analyst 1 said and the stocks rebounded and then some. Then EA released its earnings reports and subscription numbers and the stock went up 6 % . Again you are completely and utterly full of ****.

So they are in trouble because they have 1.7 million subs? I thought you just said they would break even with 500k , and they have triple that. So what your trying to say is they are doing quite well, i get it now.

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Samborino
02.04.2012 , 05:20 AM | #130
Quote: Originally Posted by Safiir View Post
Indeed it dropped from 18.5 to 19.25
lol oh wait, that isnt a drop

Just in case his math is as bad as his facts