1.1.2 PVP Bag Changes. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! (official quote inside)

It doesn't. And, Zoeller (or whatever) admitted that is where the patch comes up short. The BM boxes are still on the 25% RNG. Based on his explanation, making a change for the BM Boxes requires more effort on BW's part because there is no existing BM commendations vendor mechanic that is presently live. Making the adjustment for the Cent and Champ gear was easy because their was a pre-existing vendor comms mechanic. Now BW has to implement a similar system for BM gear. That's my take on his explanation anyway.

It's not fair to BMs, or soon to pop BMs, so I feel your pain. RNG is garbage at any tier. It needs to be completely removed. BMs should have the same gear progression certainty as Cents and Champs. Hopefully this comes through in the following patch.

This is a good question. If you have no Champ pieces at all, the RNG route may be a worthwhile gamble. Being a gambler myself, I would be opening those bags now if I were a fresh 50. The chance to get multiple pieces of gear in one week's bag run is high and there is very little chance that you will see duplicates.

On the other hand, those that have near full Champ sets are better off hoarding bags until Tuesday to get the exact pieces they are missing.

This is a much better explanation than previously given. Not a bad change, I think it will make things a bit better once some of the newer 50s get a few pieces. Question is, has or when will 1.1.2 go live?

Want to make sure that positive feedback is given when it is due. Bioware, this change to PvP bags is a good idea and should greatly help new 50s have a steady progression of acquiring early PvP gear. I want to have a continuous stream of new 50s to compete against. This should help remove the huge entry barrier that exists in the current system that I believe would lead to a lot of people canceling and thus greatly diminishing the pool of players to compete against in PvP.

Took me about 5-6 weeks to get almost full Champ PvP Gear. In a MMO I think that's pretty good!

Do people want it on they're first day? The main reason I do PvP at all is to get the bags, if i'm not going to be needing to do the dailys I wont have any reason to do the PvP. (Since it's pretty boring and takes 3 hours to do a daily on Ilum)

Yeah, but your not guaranteed loot....rng isn't as kind to some people and we could open 20 bags in a row and end up getting either nothing at all or duplicates of items we already have. Atleast this patch is a step in the right direction for steady pvp progression and not the lotto it is now.

I think some people are missing a nice aspect of this. Players can now respec withouth worrying that they hve the wrong gear set up. They can leisurely grind a new set.

you only do pvp to get pvp gear for something you find boring? so once you get your pvp gear you quit? pvp to you is just putting items on your character?

1/4^22 ~~ roughly 1 in 17 quadrillion, the same as your chances of going that to begin with.

Given a forum population on the order of 1 million, which we'll assume for generosity all have hit BM, the chances of this event occurring to any forum player is less than 1 in 1 million. We can thus conclude with high confidence that the BM drop rate is not currently 25%, or not independently random, if your anecdote is true.

Yes...is fantastic new for ppl that actually have earned their pieces by grinding to rank 54 until they got the whole set, and now almost 60 and probably will use as long time getting BM gear so ppl can whine in a month that its to hard to get so BW can "give" it to them

wouldn't it be 0.75^22 since he's saying chance of not getting one in the next 22 bags, and the chance of not getting one is 0.75.

0.75^22 = 0.00178 = 0.178% or approximately 1/500 chance this will happen to him.

so, the chance is still small, but not unlikely considering a population of several hundred thousand players.