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NOW = 1.7 Million Active Subscribers | 3 Months from now = Guess What

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NOW = 1.7 Million Active Subscribers | 3 Months from now = Guess What

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Marroc
02.04.2012 , 04:16 AM | #81
Quote: Originally Posted by Gohlar View Post
LOL



Are you blind? People are leaving in huge numbers. Most servers are ghost towns.

Or is this a trap....
Funny considering population on Lord Praven is still increasing noticably on a daily basis (multiple fleet instances were unheard of for Republic in December - now we get it all the time).
Marroc Lightbringer
Guildmaster of <Team Squishy>
Lord Praven

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Samborino
02.04.2012 , 04:19 AM | #82
Quote: Originally Posted by Kalfear View Post
Im not calling for the death of TOR but seems to me the server pops dropping, not growing during prime time from what Ive seen!

Ive seen 1 heavy server in the last 3 weeks and I routinely log in around 7 pm est every day!

So Im going to guess at the end of 3 months they will be around 1.1-1.3 million subscribers.

Which is still reasonable to be honest.

Typically MMORPGs that release strong have a drop for the following 6-9 months and then once the short term players weeded out they grow or fail after that on word of mouth.

Even the much vaulted WOW lost subs for the first 9 months after release before turning it around and growing their playerbase (and they had the ultra blind battlenet fanbois to prop them up with).

Long as TOR doesnt lose more then 50% of its first 2 month subs (pre launch and 1 st 1.5 month sales) its doing ok.

If it starts dropping 70%-80% of its subs by end of 3rd month like SWG did, then its in trouble.

TOR long term success will live and die on its updates and first expansion.

Fun game but simply to easy and quick to hold initial player sales much past the 6 month mark at the latest.

The updates and promise of first expansion is going to have to bring in the long term sales as TOR was designed (wrongly IMO) as a short term game.

But Im sure the haters will say Im wrong and predict much harsher failure and the fanbois will claim Im wrong and say TOR is greatest thing since slice bread. That seems to be the trend on these forums.



PS: If EA/Bioware starts offering free trials with in the 3 month period (really with in the 24 month period), expect RIFT type results.

Free trials 3 months after release are a death sentance to a MMORPG and send a clear message that this game can not hold its players long term.

May as well offer up Lifetime subs while they at it.
Im gonna say the same thing to you, the server caps were doubled a few weeks after launch. Didnt any of you guys notice that one day they magically didnt have server queues anymore

Here you go "I want to take a second to correct the reports which speculated that a lack of congestion was a sign of slow participation. Shortly after launch, we doubled the efficiency of each server, allowing us to handle twice as many players and remove the waiting lines. The lack of congestion is a function of great engineering."

Source transcripts from an ea conference call :
http://www.darthhater.com/articles/s...-earnings-call

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Gohlar
02.04.2012 , 04:20 AM | #83
Quote: Originally Posted by Marroc View Post
Funny considering population on Lord Praven is still increasing noticably on a daily basis (multiple fleet instances were unheard of for Republic in December - now we get it all the time).
While that may or may not be true, the rest of the game appears to be dieing a slow, painful death.

To suggest that people are not leaving is just crazy. The Corsair was busy, now it's a ghost town just like 90% of the other servers.

They are looking at server merges/closures already. Not good.

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Samborino
02.04.2012 , 04:22 AM | #84
Quote: Originally Posted by Gohlar View Post
LOL



Are you blind? People are leaving in huge numbers. Most servers are ghost towns.

Or is this a trap....
The forums would probably have you beleive that wouldnt they. Its amazing how much more delusional naysayers get when good news comes along.

We all told you guys you were delusional before the numbers were released but now "everything is a conspiracy" and "everybody is lying".

lol its actually pretty funny.

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Gohlar
02.04.2012 , 04:23 AM | #85
Quote: Originally Posted by Samborino View Post
The forums would probably have you beleive that wouldnt they. Its amazing how much more delusional naysayers get when good news comes along.

We all told you guys you were delusional before the numbers were released but now "everything is a conspiracy" and "everybody is lying".

lol its actually pretty funny.
I'm going off 1st hand experience and the server list.

Wake up man.

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Safiir
02.04.2012 , 04:23 AM | #86
Quote: Originally Posted by Gohlar View Post
To suggest that people are not leaving is just crazy.
Of course people are leaving :/ There are over 2m copies sold and only 1.7m active players. If you think anyone suggests that noone has left then you must be crazy.

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Gohlar
02.04.2012 , 04:23 AM | #87
Quote: Originally Posted by Safiir View Post
Of course people are leaving :/ There are over 2m copies sold and only 1.7m active players. If you think anyone suggests that noone has left then you must be crazy.
Ok, a LOT of people are leaving. Server merges/closures are already needed. That is a really bad sign for a game this new. I haven't seen anything like this since Warhammer.

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Samborino
02.04.2012 , 04:25 AM | #88
Quote: Originally Posted by Gohlar View Post
While that may or may not be true, the rest of the game appears to be dieing a slow, painful death.

To suggest that people are not leaving is just crazy. The Corsair was busy, now it's a ghost town just like 90% of the other servers.

They are looking at server merges/closures already. Not good.
Could you link your source that say they are looking at server mergers and closures already?

Because they doubled the server size a few weeks after launch and there are still tons of heavy servers (33 at 6 pm today on NA) a heavy server would be a server that had a rather long queue at launch and a standard server would be a very heavy / full server at launch etc.

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Samborino
02.04.2012 , 04:25 AM | #89
Quote: Originally Posted by Gohlar View Post
Ok, a LOT of people are leaving. Server merges/closures are already needed. That is a really bad sign for a game this new. I haven't seen anything like this since Warhammer.
Link your source for server mergers please

Because like i just said today at 6 pm 33 heavy servers, 13 light servers and the rest standard and like i said a standard server would have been a server that was very heavy or full at launch because they double the max server population.

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Gohlar
02.04.2012 , 04:26 AM | #90
Quote: Originally Posted by Samborino View Post
Could you link your source that say they are looking at server mergers and closures already?
The vast majority of servers are light population.

Endless feedback about how there is nothing to do/nobody to play with at 50.

Just common sense. Why would they keep all these empty servers?

Quote: Originally Posted by Samborino View Post
Link your source for server mergers please
What link? I'm using common sense. See above.