Gear based PvP is amateur hour

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Gear based PvP is amateur hour

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DGolubets

02.04.2012 , 04:06 AM \| #341	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by va_wanderer I believe the words you're looking for here are "First Person Shooter". Any game designed for PvE in any reasonable amount won't be your "skills" game. Nor should it be. Nor will it ever be. This summs it up. I can add that you can try strategies like SC2 too. But this is MMORPG.

Xehoz

02.04.2012 , 04:07 AM \| #342	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by xxdragonragexx Even if it is old, the mechanics are very different from swtor. We all know swtor will be about gear progression then why are people playing this game and not gw1? More importantly why are people who want skills and no gear in swtor and not gw1? Even if it is old. GW1 is still skill based or class based or whatever. It is the gameplay you guys are looking for. Look at WoW, it came out before GW1. It's old. Older than GW1 and yet people are still playing it. Like I said any game without gear progression = no retention rate. Guild Wars 1 isn't a MMO and never intended to be. It was a CORPG: Competitive/Cooperative Online Role Playing Game. You make a fair point. I don't know how many people are still playing it, tbh. But it's not comparable with any MMO. It doesn't have a subscription plan and it doesn't push a lot of content every month, which is actually what keeps players in. Sure, the content brings gear. But that's mostly PvE content. PvP gear is only updated to remain equivalent to PvE gear. Considering that being in full Battlemaster gear is a bad idea... I'm yet to see how PvP gear grind will be in the future. They'll probably change the diminishing return curve.

NinjaScroll

02.04.2012 , 04:08 AM \| #343	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by mutee It's hard to make a mmo with good pvp that doesn't rely on gear, i mean people get bored when there's nothing to work towards. Uh ... well too bad for them. But I guess that you'd rather suck your whole life but have some great gear at the end than rock and just end it up with nothing else than skills.
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Gelich

02.04.2012 , 04:15 AM \| #344	Quote
Quote: Any game designed for PvE in any reasonable amount won't be your "skills" game. Non WoW-clones online games would like to have a word with you. Like Vindictus, for example.

xxdragonragexx

02.04.2012 , 04:21 AM \| #345	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by NinjaScroll Uh ... well too bad for them. But I guess that you'd rather suck your whole life but have some great gear at the end than rock and just end it up with nothing else than skills. I'd rather suck my whole life in a video game. LoL. Kids today. Why do people think having skills or being better in pvp is an achievement? If I'm the best player in any game, I wouldn't be proud of it. I can't sell it, won't get money for it and women won't fall for me because of it. It is a useless title.

Gelich

02.04.2012 , 04:25 AM \| #346	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by xxdragonragexx I'd rather suck my whole life in a video game. LoL. Kids today. Why do people think having skills or being better in pvp is an achievement? If I'm the best player in any game, I wouldn't be proud of it. I can't sell it, won't get money for it and women won't fall for me because of it. It is a useless title. Because being better than others is pleasant. Also, if you're indeed the best you can make money off of it. And a special kind of ladies would even dig you because of it >.> But in the end, it's as useful as collecting post stamps. Some people just like it.

Suciotime

02.04.2012 , 05:05 AM \| #347	Quote
Somebody call the WAAAAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE there is so much crying going on in this thread.

Knifewrench

02.04.2012 , 05:06 AM \| #348	Quote
See signature if you're still confused about there being gear in an MMO.
War Hero with a bounty on him by his own faction. Aren't I popular.

xxdragonragexx

02.04.2012 , 05:09 AM \| #349	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Knifewrench See signature if you're still confused about there being gear in an MMO. I actually suck at video games but Visual Basic tells me I'm the best.

darthmorbous

02.06.2012 , 03:29 AM \| #350	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by bekure i personally would work toward vanity items, experience and in-game currency. I pvp mostly for fun so i would trade the gear grind for a skill based combat system any day of the week. If gear only accounted for 10% of a players damage output then it would be a non-issue. It would be 90% skill and 10% gear but most mmo developers are silly imo and always go for the 50/50 route. Pvp is suppose to be about player vs player anyhow, not gear vs gear. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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