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Diphtheria
02.04.2012 , 12:02 AM | #391
Anyone who was successful at arena enjoyed it. There is a large population of people who want it. If there is no arena in STWOR people will move on to Guild Wars where they will have arena style pvp.

People who do not want arena don't need to participate. Arena is important for the longevity of a game because PvP is the only non static content in these MMOs. Implemented right, arena would be a great asset to the game.

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Panzerbase
02.04.2012 , 12:11 AM | #392
Arena encompassed such a small portion of WOW's population yet caused grief until no end since it's inception. This is reason enough for it to never see the light of day.
Damn you've been sliced in two.

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Navakai
02.04.2012 , 12:17 AM | #393
Arena is fun. It's something else to do. If you don't like it, you don't do it. An easy fix for the gear issue, would be just have the gear the same stats as the WZ gear.

You can offer other rewards through arena outside gear. Titles, emotes, ranking system, ect



Anyone who argues against having more options in an MMO is stupid.

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Khelzar
02.04.2012 , 12:18 AM | #394
Quote: Originally Posted by Diphtheria View Post
Anyone who was successful at arena enjoyed it. There is a large population of people who want it. If there is no arena in STWOR people will move on to Guild Wars where they will have arena style pvp.

People who do not want arena don't need to participate. Arena is important for the longevity of a game because PvP is the only non static content in these MMOs. Implemented right, arena would be a great asset to the game.

I'm not sure that there is that large a population that wants arena. As it is, in WoW the arena population wasn't large at all. That said, the only way I wouldn't mind arena is if you don't get any additional gear benefits from it. If you can't get PvP gear faster with it, by all means, have an arena. I think it's a horrible PvP setting, but, to each their own.

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routesman
02.04.2012 , 12:24 AM | #395
Here's why you won't see arenas in SW:TOR:

http://wow.joystiq.com/2009/11/13/bl...ere-a-mistake/

Even Blizzard admits arenas were a mistake because of what it did to the rest of the game. If you built your game around PvP (AKA Guild Wars), arenas are fine. If you built your game around PvE (SW:TOR), arenas are a BAD idea.

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Panzerbase
02.04.2012 , 12:39 AM | #396
Quote: Originally Posted by routesman View Post
Here's why you won't see arenas in SW:TOR:

http://wow.joystiq.com/2009/11/13/bl...ere-a-mistake/

Even Blizzard admits arenas were a mistake because of what it did to the rest of the game. If you built your game around PvP (AKA Guild Wars), arenas are fine. If you built your game around PvE (SW:TOR), arenas are a BAD idea.
Yup and that's the honest truth, the game needs to be PVP centric in order to maintain an arena style of play.

Ghostcrawler was out in full force trying to backpeddle out of that one for months.
Damn you've been sliced in two.

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Moriam
02.04.2012 , 01:10 AM | #397
Quote: Originally Posted by Celebrus View Post
Fixed.

Wanna be a glad? Be a mage, find a rogue, find a priest, faceroll to epix.

Resto sham + any 2 classes = free glad.

Skill at a premium!
Um no not really...i have seen plenty of bad mages rogues and shamans. Sometimes they get carried but past 2 k rating you start to see the difference

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Dominemesis
02.04.2012 , 01:39 AM | #398
Quote: Originally Posted by Sedic View Post
Sorry I am confused, why would players who do not like the arena system claim they do not want it when it is a 100% voluntary action? There is a smaller minority of people who love arena who love the fact that your fighting on a ladder system, that there is zero chance of anyone interrupting your fight and it all comes down to you and your partners skill. Yes of course some balancing would take place on classes all arena would do is put a spot like on the too powerful classes so Bioware may allow balance. World of Warcraft had massive diversity in there classes that caused huge balance issues constantly, Swtor has very very similar mechanics entwined into each class that would save tones of nerf/buff patchs.

Things Swtor could do better to Arena type pvp

-> Same rewards for Arena pvp as all other type battlegrounds? (same gain rate, so people who only like arena dont have to play huttball against/with bots and afks.)

->I always felt the competitive edge of different gear was what made Arena fun the guy with the legendary hit hard that how it was supposed to work. Swtor could simply auto buff stats to the same level (just like low lvls in bgs) so that regardless of your gear it actually did come down to skill.

TLDR : Arenas were fun in wow, a lot of people used them. Why are there masses of people so against in a 100% voluntary action in a game?
1. Arena ends up dominating the pvp scene, and is lame, let SWTOR try to be something gosh darn different than WOW, since if you just want more of that crap you can always go back to it. I counter, why do people want Bioware to repeat what WoW's lead designer admitted was their biggest mistake, and implement fail-renas??

2. Class balance becomes slavishly dominated by this ******** aspect of the game, see WoW never in 6+ years achieving class balance, just a long series of swapped imbalances and FOTM comps.

3. Arenas suck.

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Samaul
02.04.2012 , 01:53 AM | #399
I lead a large, successful and respected guild, Havoc Squad on the Ven Zallow RP server. If arenas were implemented in SWTOR, we would likely find another MMO.

Just say no to arenas in swtor, not now, not ever. There is no need to explain why, the subject has been discussed ad nauseum in WoW, WAR, AoC, Aion, RIFT and now SWTOR.

Dont go there BioWare, arenas just arent worth the trouble they will cause.

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Ghingis
02.04.2012 , 03:44 AM | #400
Quote: Originally Posted by Noctournys View Post
I think you werent even playing when what we're talking about happened.

Until they linked Cheat Death to resilience..

no top rated rogue wore more than about 5% resilience.

The boost they got to dodge/parry/damage output from PvE gear was simply too great and their survivability didn't suffer at all.

Warriors through S4 wore PvE gear in every slot they could get away with. ArPen was simply far too good and scaled FAR too well to do otherwise.
Then I guess all the top rogues I played with and against just simply had other gearsets on when they played without me, because when I played every rogue pretty much stacked full PvP gear because they were too squishy without it. Their survivability was heavily nerfed in 3v3 without PvP gear.
Ghingis Kenobi ft. Darth Xeriyo <- rofl.

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