Dungeon Finder Needed Badly

You, You, You - thats what I am hearing all the time... Its very sad that you must act like you do. Im just guessing you are very young still so to tolerate people´s opinions or to actually compromise is very hard for you, cant blame you, its natural at a younger age but I hope you will change that behaivour soon, also to your own intrest´s.

Also if your server would be so cool as you say, how come you dont even know 3 people there? Somehow this sounds very weird to me, playing on the best server but not finding groups ^^

You can insult me as much you want, but that "childish" acting does not help anyone, especially not BW. They will just ignore your post´s then.

I dont want to offend you, but ya I dont think it makes much sense to actually try to discuss this with you as you are not going into this whole discussion a bit.

I said that on my server nobody has ever requested such a tool, which is what I have encounterd by playing there.
We got a working system and as far I know a lot other servers have such a working system as well. There even once was a thread here at the forum, where people had the servers listed and the global LFG chat channel - but unfortunately that thread was blown away by such threads like this one here.

I never said anything about your server, as I cant judge this. And the word guess does actually mean that I think this would be a good idea, it does not have anything to do with a dictator as you have thought.

You said you need to sit at the fleet forever. I did prove you are a liar, its not my fault that you cant take the truth


As said, I will end this here for now. You are not able to compromise or talk things out without insulting me all the time, because of this I wish you a good night and wont discuss this with you any further.

Come with me children, as we go back. Way back to the year of two-thousand and eight. Where communities flourished like so many rose petals in the wind. Where just mentioning the word group in a channel of chatting raised the banner of glory and people would flock to you to vanquish all evil. Before the rise of the evil tools of looking that would destroy our beautiful and harmonious ways.

If anyone now name that tool, he shall be banished into the crafts of war, never to be heard of again!

Be gone, foul spirit! There shall never be such evil tools of looking in our wars among the stars! Be banished! Never to be spoken of again!

Edit to add: Thanks she who shall not be named for reporting my post. That'll stop me.

You won't have one, we will.

WE will use it while you will be grouping with all of the players you were grouping with BEFORE the OPTIONAL tool was added.

It is an OPTIONAL tool - IE: if you don't want to use it because you already can find groups without it, then you do NOT HAVE TO use it.

NOT ONE player here is telling you that you have to use the bloody tool - YOU are telling US that since YOU don't want to use/have no need for a tool that you will NOT HAVE TO use, that we CAN'T use the tool either, however.

So, what, you want us to just sit around and WISH we had a group while you and your groups have a good time?

Someone needs to force you to not group up, see how you like being told you can't do what you want to do in a video game.

I've had very similar thoughts on the matter

No its not Option. Go to the WoW forums about their current LFD tool. Everyone and their brother is saying is Forced other then people like you that think is perfect. Anyone that plays MMOs to Play MMOs and have friends knows and explains its a terrible tool.

It's you again ... sigh

How the heck is anyone going to force you to use an LFD tool?

Someone gonna come to your house and stick a gun in your face and say "use it or die!" or something?

There is some degree of forcing which we can work on to find a compromise that fits everybody but you guys who don't want a LFD of any form are a very small miniority of the playerbase. You shouldn't be fighting a battle you can't win, instead we should be finding ways to make it so as many people as possible win.

This is a bit like the "pro addon" argumentation

If you dont want it, dont use it. But its still in the game and does still have an influence.

I tried to explain earlier why I think that things like Bonus rewards, disabled lockouts are pretty much a must have for such tools.
This will then give all these people who dont use it to queue up, a major disadvantage. At the wow forum was once a discussion, where people were mad that they had to run 2 or 3 LFD groups a week, to keep up with the valor cap.

Also dungeons then must be lowered in their demand of skill, as understandable a LFD group will not perform as good as a self made one.
Again this will limit the gaming quality of those who dont use it, just look at wow - there you can almost solo all 5mens now as a good player, thats just no fun for guild groups or small friends groups.

It is unfortunately not that easy as you think it is


Those of us who see these things might look to you as somekind of enemy, but in the end we just want to show you the consequences about such tools and we try to offer alternative solutions, which help you too but dont destroy the fun for others.

BW does know that a helping hand is not a bad thing, but I am guessing they do also know that a simple solution like at wow is not the best way to go. If it would be, then the tool would had been in the game from the start - that it was not, does show their conerns very well, concerns that go much further than just the "kill community" argument of some here.

Guys, do not lose focus in this discussion, this is the goal we are working towards. We just need Bioware to test out X-server PvP brackets first.