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JaredSeventy
02.03.2012 , 07:18 PM | #151
Quote: Originally Posted by Zarcharias View Post
I dont want to put forth time, energy or effort to accomplish anything.

I am entitled to what you have by default.

bring down those who worked hard, spent time and effort as a means of raising up the unmotivated and under geared.

socialism at it's finest.

real pvpers arent socialists either.

OP might have more fun just running flashpoints methinks.



This is an MMO. This is not CoD. Gear is part of the treadmill, and is raison d'etre in said genre, be it PvP or PvE.

or to summarize in gamer terms... less QQ more pewpew = gear


People who have 400 crew skills are unskilled noobs and should delete their skills to 0 so I can compete with my tier1 on the GTN.
I am a higher profit player for Bioware I spend less time consuming bandwidth and server resources. I therefore should be given and advantage over people who play all day and consume resources... its in bioware's interest to keep me happy over you.

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JaredSeventy
02.03.2012 , 07:22 PM | #152
Quote: Originally Posted by Seraphical View Post
Oh, I have to contribute to the discussion. I edited my post.

15% x 15% x 15% = 19.8375%.
Actually your math if flawed

1.15 x 1.15 x 1.15 = 1.520875 so 52% advantage I should change the title of the thread

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Zarcharias
02.03.2012 , 07:22 PM | #153
you sir, are an excellent troll. <applause>

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CrunchyGremlin
02.03.2012 , 07:32 PM | #154
Quote: Originally Posted by Zarcharias View Post
I dont want to put forth time, energy or effort to accomplish anything.

I am entitled to what you have by default.

bring down those who worked hard, spent time and effort as a means of raising up the unmotivated and under geared.

socialism at it's finest.

real pvpers arent socialists either.

OP might have more fun just running flashpoints methinks.



This is an MMO. This is not CoD. Gear is part of the treadmill, and is raison d'etre in said genre, be it PvP or PvE.

or to summarize in gamer terms... less QQ more pewpew = gear


People who have 400 crew skills are unskilled noobs and should delete their skills to 0 so I can compete with my tier1 on the GTN.

I am confused because this is exactly why there is pvp gear.
I dont wanna play the game i just want my gear. i hate you i hate you i hate you! wah!
I should get biochem by just doing warzones.
I soloed Ilum completing all of the objectives.
30 sentinel ,40 Shadow, 18 Scoundrel
Why cant we win at WZ's Universe at war RPGPVP progression Re-install DX9 for better perf?

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Adzzy
02.03.2012 , 07:41 PM | #155
Quote: Originally Posted by CrunchyGremlin View Post
Right so there should also be gear brackets so PvP progression involves "content" progression just like PvE.

Ah but there arent enough people PvPing because solely gear based PvP is pointless for a population playing an RPG.
it would be just like pve progression, spending hours staring at the same enemies with the same skills....
Keys are lame

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JaredSeventy
02.03.2012 , 08:11 PM | #156
Quote: Originally Posted by Adzzy View Post
it would be just like pve progression, spending hours staring at the same enemies with the same skills....
So you prefer killing players that have less of a chance so you can feel special and improtant. Are you lacking in other areas?

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CrunchyGremlin
02.03.2012 , 08:12 PM | #157
Quote: Originally Posted by Adzzy View Post
it would be just like pve progression, spending hours staring at the same enemies with the same skills....
which is why you need... PvP content.
That idea goes right in hand with the RPG.

PvP content being scenarios and such that advance the PvP story that i need better gear to work through.
And real PvP RPG content must have tangible player driven goals to advance the player driven PvP content both on mass group scale and small group scale.

I dont think people really care that much about the gear progression as much as they care about it being the only PvP progression available.
I know i dont. But i hate the idea of gear only progression.
It's so small minded.
I soloed Ilum completing all of the objectives.
30 sentinel ,40 Shadow, 18 Scoundrel
Why cant we win at WZ's Universe at war RPGPVP progression Re-install DX9 for better perf?

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spyderfly
02.03.2012 , 08:16 PM | #158
Sounds like you want GW2, not SWTOR. Wait in line.

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Selixx
02.03.2012 , 08:18 PM | #159
Quote: Originally Posted by JaredSeventy View Post
Its about the gear at the time of the fight. If you need a gear advantage, stat advantage or expertise advantage it does not make you good it only makes you a coward.
Your logic is so flawed, it's rather embarrassing. Using a gear advantage is common sense; that doesn't necessarily mean that I need it.

RL example: If you are in a fight with someone, and they pull a knife on you, are you going to say "Wait, since he's using a knife, I'll just use my knife and limit myself, because I dont want to be seen as a coward;" or are you going to pull out your .45 and shoot him in the face? If its the first answer, you might want to reevaluate your priorities. Sure, I might win the knife fight, but I'm definitely going to win if I use my .45.

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info_man
02.03.2012 , 08:19 PM | #160
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Do you know the real advantage to being a Battlemaster? Over a months practice at Warzones and picking up all the neat little tricks to use your character efficiently in PvP.
I wish this was true.
The same idiots who started out 50 are the same idiots in BM gear who just run around with their heads cut off.
Granted not ALL bm are bad, just like not ALL newbs are bad. However the time it takes to get 60 valor by no means makes someone an experienced verten who can do no wrong.
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