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Fix LOLSLAM Juggs / Knights

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Fix LOLSLAM Juggs / Knights

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Seyyal
02.03.2012 , 02:55 PM | #121
Quote: Originally Posted by Treplos View Post
I got hit today by a Guardian for 5,500 damage (I had 515 Expertise BM/Champ gear and the guy was only Champ rank).

I thought it was a fluke but he did it again in more than one match. He's even hitting others for well over 6k.

Another tank class that has some high burst is Powertech/Vaguard.

Kinda silly to give tanks high burst, sustained damage, survivability, CC and utility .. and then go nerf the burst of a burst glass-cannon class that has nothing else lol
now lets just slow this train down a bit please.

tank spec's bh/knight/warrior/trooper whatever are not pulling these crits.
tank spec dmg is ultra low just like it should be.

a shieldtech bh, does NOT have burst in any fashion. biggest crit i have ever gotten is around 2200.

lets not throw our tanks under the bus here.
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Benjaminnelly
02.03.2012 , 02:57 PM | #122
That guardian video wasn't that impressive guys. Sheesh.

He was biochem. That means a permanent increase in his main stats.

All of those big bursts were against people with crappy pvp gear and he was using an adrenal and a surge relic. Know how you can tell? The hp pool was around 12-13k on those guys and you can see his buffs.

Also, he was battlemaster. He had the lightsaber.

Combine all of those together with the magic of editing and you have the most op spec ever apparently.

I'm at battlemaster but I don't have Biochem (artifice for the magenta crystal) and with an expertise buff from the wz's and my surge relic, I hit my smash for 5k against equally geared people. I can only do this once every 12 secs with every single buff I can stack on my guy. My other attacks? They will crit for the regular 2-3k that every other class has. My expertise is at 597. And if you're moving? Good luck with hitting that smash.
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zXMeicXz
02.03.2012 , 02:57 PM | #123
seriously are there any class you guys dont want to be nerfed?? if the devs would listen to every crybabies on the forums everyone would hit for 1 damage max just get over it and learn to adapt your playstyle, you cant kill someone? well find another way than what you usually do, lazy ***

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Ravaran
02.03.2012 , 03:01 PM | #124
Quote: Originally Posted by zXMeicXz View Post
seriously are there any class you guys dont want to be nerfed?? if the devs would listen to every crybabies on the forums everyone would hit for 1 damage max just get over it and learn to adapt your playstyle, you cant kill someone? well find another way than what you usually do, lazy ***
agreed. this nerf garbage is getting ridiculous.

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Archendrus
02.03.2012 , 03:03 PM | #125
Quote: Originally Posted by Ravaran View Post
agreed. this nerf garbage is getting ridiculous.
My feelings exactly

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ImSaved
02.03.2012 , 03:03 PM | #126
I'm not saying the class is severely overpowered, and personally I couldn't care less if it get's nerfed or not. I'm just arguing the point.

And for the people who say "OMG HE WAS USING BIOCHEM" - every single player I know that PvP's regularly, has Biochem. It's not as if it's some rare commodity no one has access to, it's extremely common and abused by almost everyone, including Guardians and Juggernauts.
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jdnyc
02.03.2012 , 03:05 PM | #127
Quote: Originally Posted by ImSaved View Post
He used Force Stasis to regain control before throwing his lightsaber for 5k. He could've easily done the opposite. Are we really splitting hairs now? lol

At 6:25 he Sweeps for 5k, follows up with 4k. We can keep going if you wanna continually refuse that it's possible.
LOL
What are you talking about? That 5k is done to one target while the 4k is done to the other target. As for splitting hairs, the OP is saying that a 7k, then a 5k is done right after it. Meaning no seconds between to use CDs or any other damage mitigation to prevent a two shot on one target.

P.S. on top of all this - I think it's safe to assume that this guy is editing his max crit damage, not that this happens all the time for him to better geared opponents. Most of these guys he's smashing are undoubtedly new 50s that rank up high numbers. Which any BM fully gear player could make a video like this against new 50s. This is why we have so many threads in this very forum complaining about level 50 Warzones.

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Gregory-IRL-Bria
02.03.2012 , 03:06 PM | #128
Quote: Originally Posted by ImSaved View Post
And for the people who say "OMG HE WAS USING BIOCHEM" - every single player I know that PvP's regularly, has Biochem. It's not as if it's some rare commodity no one has access to, it's extremely common and abused by almost everyone, including Guardians and Juggernauts.
Exactly, the point they are trying to make is dont nerf a class based on a third party stim.

It's like them nerfing the USAS-12 in BF3 because people thought it was overpowered on a 64 player metro server. The gun was not overpowered, it was the fact it was being used on a map that was nothing but hallways.

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ImSaved
02.03.2012 , 03:13 PM | #129
Quote: Originally Posted by jdnyc View Post
LOL
What are you talking about? That 5k is done to one target while the 4k is done to the other target. As for splitting hairs, the OP is saying that a 7k, then a 5k is done right after it. Meaning no seconds between to use CDs or any other damage mitigation to prevent a two shot on one target.
I can only assume you're either A) in denial, or B) mentally handicapped. In the video, the other person is FAR too distant to be affected by the Smash crit, not to mention, the 5k was yellow (kinetic damage) and the 4k was white (weapon damage). 6:26 - 4934 Kinetic damage, 6:28 - 3990 Weapon damage. Please actually watch the video before you comment again please.
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jdnyc
02.03.2012 , 03:15 PM | #130
Quote: Originally Posted by ImSaved View Post
I can only assume you're either A) in denial, or B) mentally handicapped. In the video, the other person is FAR too distant to be affected by the Smash crit, not to mention, the 5k was yellow (kinetic damage) and the 4k was white (weapon damage). 6:26 - 4934 Kinetic damage, 6:28 - 3990 Weapon damage. Please actually watch the video before you comment again please.
I did and it doesn't matter. It was on a different target with different gear. Meaning different numbers.