Fix LOLSLAM Juggs / Knights

I say nerf Focus/Rage spec and then proceed to nerf the rest of these Scoundrel and Operatives TO THE GROUND.

Honestly, there is so much crying from these players who acted like they had any ounce of skill and now are crying when reality slaps them across the face and they're brought back into balance.

I've got a Guardian. I don't mind seeing Focus/Rage spec being nerfed. At least I can man up and admit it's over-the-top AOE damage. I've got a whole lot more integrity than you whiny, skillless, Operative/Scoundrel players who thought a 3 second knockdown and having enough burst damage to kill tanks within a few seconds is all right and balanced.

Main reason I don't play Rage is it is a dumb spec that is very easy to shutdown by anyone that is awake. For Rage to do good damage you need to be fighting clueless people. Are we really playing a game where anything that you can't counter completely by accident needs to be nerfed? Wait, don't answer that.

Operatives already got nerfed. At this point, if you're a tank and you're dying to an Operative, you should just uninstall the game.

And now that Operatives have been nerfed, everyone is looking to blame another class for their inability to play the game. And who is hitting 6k AoE crits? Guardians.

Can you name other high damage specials jugg/guardian has besides smash that does "crazy" damage? These classes are extremely gear dependant, needs good gear to actually put out that kind of damage, force scream is ok and can still do 1300+ damage but most of the lightsaber attacks barely breaks 1000 damage in the 50 bracket. So the complaint is about smash doing 5K damage which has a 15 second cooldown? They're not going to 2-3 shot you like pre-1.1 operatives could.

Disregarding most of what you said, by your standards, an Operative/Scoundrel critting someone now for 1k-1.5k opener is more to your liking. lol

You can have heavy armor and i can have stealth, deal.

You do realise that armor is debuffable, and in fact atm due to the current system at least three seperate character stacks can lay on you, that means if 3 people throw debuff stacks on you armor reduction look like 60% considering how broken rest migitations mechanic is, i wouldn't exactly say our survival is large, at best decent if you specced at least 11points into immortal for invincible which is only really workable migitations juggy has atm aside from unstoppable where you also need to be somewhat spending into vengeance.

Atm shield rating and absorb does little to nothing against anything but certain types of classes that run weapon damage, but majority has most their hard hitting ability on kinetic, energy, force or elemental so majority of attacks does not trip shields, so even if we going into our tanking stance, only real reliable reductions in it is the 6% damage reduction which only about 3% higher that shii-cho form.

Now lets consider that defense rating also only affect certain attacks, and that accuracy heavily counters it. Now lets consider even heavily specced into RAGE talent tree, you still have smash on 12CD, you have force crush on a even longer 21sec or so, then you have force choke on 50min, which for most part built smash up, you telling me this is any better than what other burst classes have, or even healers which has same at times if not better survivability than tanks in pvp?

P.S: Mark my words if you get only real viable DPS tree for juggernaut nerfed, you'll see little to no Juggernaut or gaurdians for that matter in pvp, because what else we suppose to do? Tank get low amount of medals and crappy survivability due to broken tanking system in pvp?

Operatives only 3 shotted people who were under-geared, and when the operatives had full stack of buffs. Only, every other class who did the same were also 3 shotting those people.

But now it's 2 shotting?

I just owned you.

http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#10...RhdzZGr0ddbz.1

If I also get the rest of the perks, why not.