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Dungeon Finder Needed Badly


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Racheakt
02.03.2012 , 09:20 AM | #681
I still think the "community building" statement by the devs is a red herring: I think they ran out of time and could not implement it and did not want to bother with it for a while and the "community building" is a good rationalization for missing the content.

If "community building" was a priority for BW there would be server specific forums -- ya know, to build community.

Why would you not create a LFD to "build community", and then not build sever forums that would "build community"? Seems counter intuitive but those have a a common tread, the word "not". Not doing something frees up money, time, and other resources to do other things.

I think BW knows this tool is needed, they just wanted to push it off for a year or so and the anti-LFD mantra of "it builds community" provided the smoke screen.

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Moricthian
02.03.2012 , 09:47 AM | #682
Quote: Originally Posted by Orisai View Post
Trying to do PvE content in this game is way more complicated than what it is on PvP. I mean, anti-LFD people have some problem with the very same autoamted grouping mechanics that is used on PvP.

1. Right now, we can join a PvP warzone everywhere in the game, one loading screen per match. Farm Warzone commendations, trade some for Mercenary ones then get PvP boxes with medals and random Champion gear... All of this while being offworld questing.

2. PvE is way different... We have to get to the Fleet (1-2 loading screens depending on the Fleet Pass cooldown), spam General like crazy, flag ourselves in a tool nobody uses because... well spamming LFG in General is easier. If lucky, have another loading screen this time for the Flashpoint. Ahh... do not die inside because you'll be ported outside the Flashpoint (1 Fleet loading screen) then reenter the instance again (another loading screen).

That, just to play a Flashpoint compared to a Warzone.
This is the issue right here. Anti-LFD people can make all the arguments they want about a tool making people lazy or rude but their arguments don't hold water becasue we already do have a LFWZ tool and it has yet to reallly destroy the community of the game. Including one for flashpionts is a must.

I know BW said one is in the works but I'm sort of just afraid its going to be an upgraded version of the joke of a system they have now. If they don't include a tool like the PvP que, I don't know how much longer I'll stick around.

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Zocat
02.03.2012 , 09:49 AM | #683
Quote: Originally Posted by Moricthian View Post
This is the issue right here. Anti-LFD people can make all the arguments they want about a tool making people lazy or rude but their arguments don't hold water becasue we already do have a LFWZ tool and it has yet to reallly destroy the community of the game. Including one for flashpionts is a must.

I know BW said one is in the works but I'm sort of just afraid its going to be an upgraded version of the joke of a system they have now. If they don't include a tool like the PvP que, I don't know how much longer I'll stick around.
So if you compare it to the LFWZ tool - you agree that it has to be server only?
Because I am only against a cross server lfd.

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Moricthian
02.03.2012 , 10:02 AM | #684
Quote: Originally Posted by Zocat View Post
So if you compare it to the LFWZ tool - you agree that it has to be server only?
Because I am only against a cross server lfd.
I'm completely fine with a server only tool.

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Sarkav
02.03.2012 , 10:08 AM | #685
100% agree
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Ganelon
02.03.2012 , 10:41 AM | #686
Quote: Originally Posted by Zocat View Post
So if you compare it to the LFWZ tool - you agree that it has to be server only?
Absolutely not. Both should be cross-server by default, with the matching and queuing algorithms giving some preference to same server characters, and the option to restrict the tool single-server for those that want it.

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Sarge_
02.03.2012 , 12:10 PM | #687
I completely agree that there should be a LFD tool. Server only though. Granted, it would take more time to form a group, but community and grouping within server should be encouraged.

But the way it is now, on my server aleast it's hard enough as it is to find 4 player groups for heroics within the planet. Let alone for flashpoints where half of the potential interested are leveling in some planet and the other half is in the fleet.

I missed several FP's i was interested on, because i couldn't find a group and i outleveled them.

What i've been doing right now, is assembling what i can in whatever level range planet I am, and then one of us goes to the fleet advertise lfg. It's time consuming, game breaking, and extremely dissapointing when you can't do the things you like, not necessarily because there aren't people up for it but because we lack the tools to find them.

In-server or cross server is the only debatable aspect. Pros and Cons to both. I'm personally for in-server only. I can't add anything else to the discussion that hasn't already been said.

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Nitewolfe
02.03.2012 , 02:10 PM | #688
Quote: Originally Posted by Moricthian View Post
I'm completely fine with a server only tool.
I am not fine wit ha server only tool!
I think every pro cross server player would have zero issue with there being a server only toggle for those that want single server. But allow the cross server people to also have the option to go cross server.

If you can keep your groups to single server me going cross server would have zero effect on you.

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Orisai
02.03.2012 , 02:32 PM | #689
Quote: Originally Posted by Ganelon View Post
Absolutely not. Both should be cross-server by default, with the matching and queuing algorithms giving some preference to same server characters, and the option to restrict the tool single-server for those that want it.
LFWZ should have been Xserver since day one. I grew tired of playing Huttball against the Empire just because there aren't enough Republic players in my server.
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Neiloch
02.03.2012 , 04:44 PM | #690
Quote: Originally Posted by Zocat View Post
So if you compare it to the LFWZ tool - you agree that it has to be server only?
Because I am only against a cross server lfd.
cross server LFWZ and level bracketing is on the way, FYI.