Why are so many people against Arena in Swtor?

You literally just listed off the best reason to not have arena. For one, yes, there would need to be rewards. There would be endless crying on these forums about "Why don't I get gear for competing at a level above everyone else, blah blah blah, I am awesome praise me and watch my live stream."

Beyond that....giving people an arena rating automatically turns the forums and general chat into a war of numbers.

You don't have XXXX rating? Your opinion doesn't matter says the guy on the level 10 alt.

WoW's devs, from their own mouths, have said that arena requires focused balancing, that arena is the reason for a lot of the class changes, and that it often leaves PvE players wondering why their class was changed.

Stop blatantly lying about an issue that has been openly discussed by the creators of arena themselves.

Are you kidding? There was a vast difference in a glad playing against a 1500 rated player. A glad could win easily and you could see the skill. Why was there a large community for arena discussion where people could ask for advice? You think people paid tosee tournaments to see baddies play? There was irrefutably apparent that there was skill. It may be skill which you dont like, but dont be naive.

Fixed.

Wanna be a glad? Be a mage, find a rogue, find a priest, faceroll to epix.

Resto sham + any 2 classes = free glad.

Skill at a premium!

I use the keyboard to turn so please don't make an arena. I want just WZs, because that is a great reflection of how good I am in PVP. Grinding gear for long periods of time makes me good. Playing against skilled teams with coordination and a ranking system in no way shape or form would reflect a players skill. PVE is where the real skill is anyways. I kill AI because imma tough guy.

Arena both provides solutions to old problems as well as creating new ones.

If the only end game was PVP it would be easy to solve, Blizzard would have locked this down a couple of expansions ago. The problem is keeping everyone happy with PVE and PVP, a change made for the good of either almost invariably does something negative to the other.

It's not really even about what Arena did to PVP, but what having Raiding and Arena did to each other to constantly create tough problems to solve.

My position is that Blizzard's biggest mistake with implementing Arena was not putting in Rated Battlegrounds at the same time. Many people simply prefer that type of PVP, and they are a lot easier to balance for.

Elitism, there is nothing a developer can do to prevent it. People who choose to be jerks will find something to do it over.

I think a lot of people had bad experiences with Arena simply because it exposes everything you are not good at. You might be an overall decent player but don't communicate well, disastrous for Arena. Anything your team are weak at will reflect in your ratings.

As a completely isolated way to play the game Arena is the most fun I have ever had, the most educational experience too. You find some good partners and start playing games and it is like a firehose of learning and improving, "synergy" in a way that actually means something tangible. It feels great and is rewarding on a completely different level from crushing bads in a Warzone.

As for World PVP it existed in WoW until you could queue up for everything without actually moving your character. Anyone who was around for Isle of Quel'Danas (a PVE quest hub) can explain to you what makes world PVP actually work.

The tl;dr here is that I love Arena but understand the problems with it in a mixed PVE and PVP game. If they seriously pursue it my recommendation is lots and lots of testing, and possibly isolating it to a designated "e-sport" or "Arena" sever per geographic region.

I agree this is very annoying. These trolls would find something to say though, so ignore is the way to go.

Problem is, often times where PVP is concerned there is some validity to a high rated player (not a level 10 troll) telling a low rated player they don't know what is and isn't overpowered or that their opinion on how something works is wrong.

Take the example of Deathwish, it is very powerful if not dispelled. A high rated team will dispel it or CC the person 100% of the time. A low rated team might not even know you can.

People deserve to be rewarded for being better than others.

Enough said.

spoken like a true baddie.

Remove flashpoints and operations. I do not enjoy them and rarely do them. I hate seeing people gearing up with pve gear, which I will never obtain, because I have no time nor the will for raiding.

Unfair advantage.

Should I also add the fact that pve balance concerns completely ruins pvp experience.

Excuses against a possible arena implementation is slightly more viable though - but only slightly -, gotta give you that.

Every class in this game has a low cd interrupt. 75% of people chose not to make use of it. I would bet they don't even have it on their bar. Instead they whine on forums.


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bring in arenas and lets fight someone who knows what they are doing