1.1.2 PVP Bag Changes. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! (official quote inside)

10 Champion bags for one (set) item in the new patch.

Not bad if you get ~4 every day with a bonus 6 for the weekly. Still, might be slower than the time it took for some lucky guys out there.

ill take welfare epics over lottery epics any day... Also i dont think that this is very welfare, you still have to grind your *** off in warzones. Dont be mad just because you had to gear up in a broken system, be happy that there will be more competition in pvp.

As someone who just opened 22 Battlemaster bags without receiving a single token, I would like to add that these changes do nothing for me.

Can someone who's good at math tell me what the odds are of going another 22 BM bags without a token, assuming an alleged drop rate of 25%?

That's within the standard deviation of expected drop rates.

Just so that we know. Can we see a source of the OP quotes ?

edit : nevermind , i just discovered the dev tracker ...
*facepalm*

http://www.swtor.com/community/devtracker.php

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well i just ding lvl 50 like 8 day ago and it is soo soooo hard to play pvp when you have green lvl 108 vs full champion-battlemaster geared imp, i think i have open close to 12 bag and i have got 4 implant and 2 brace :s , so this great news can help new lvl 50 to get gear some how or they can add craff armor for pvp

Just doing enough Dailies to get your two weeklies done not counting anything extra bought with the commendations gained from doing this will net you 12 bags a week, for 3 evening of pvp play or less...... yeah.. giving it away.

No this is welfare, its gamers who don't want to put any time in. In six months you'll be able to just roll out a level fifty with whatever gear you want because people don't want to put the time in.

I enjoy the gradient of gear levels, it allows for a more dynamic environment, but people dont want that they want the best asap. Then they'll complain the game isn't hard enough or long enough, well it's because you guys are lazy.

I'll never have the gear the 30 year old in his parent’s basement does, which is fine, but someone who plays half as much as me should never reach the gear level I do.

If anyone wants the game to be 'leveled' for all type of gamers, than the 'hardest' 50% of gamers will eventually get bored and we'll be left with all the mediocre players. Who wants to play socialist game -_0

So there are people who want to pvp but they are waiting to pvp for easier gear ..please explain the sort, the goal and the reasoning of said people.

Time =/= skilll =/= luck in both pvp and pve.

It's better to be lucky than to play a lot and it's better to play a lot than have skill.

No MMO is a capitalist meritocracy. They are highly structured, controlled and everyone has the same ability to succeed as everyone else by doing the exact same thing. If that's not socialism (arguably, at its best), I don't know what is.