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Why do so many people hate Baras?

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Why do so many people hate Baras?

DarthVindictus's Avatar

02.02.2012 , 08:21 PM | #31
"Letting yourself go" apparently, I mean, even Satele Shan let herself go a little over the years. In the Hope trailer she was pretty dang hot. Now she looks chunky and not so hot.

MongoBongoArt's Avatar

02.02.2012 , 11:43 PM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by Scryer View Post
He's my favorite character Empire side by far, Grand Moff Kilran is a close second....
You sir, are a fool, a lackadaisical hack, and a meandering buffon! You couldn't be more wrong! Well you are right about everything else in your post. But not on this! So that makes you a low-grade strumpet pandering to the base pleasures of vile cretins. Baras is good, but he ain't got nothing on the sheer ******-ness that is Grand Moff Kilran. Just saying.

Baras deserved to die in the end. Kilran didn't.

sanctified's Avatar

02.02.2012 , 11:59 PM | #33
Baras wasn't a chump. When it came down to the final fight, that heavy bastard brought it on, and gave me the fight of the game. How could anyone not love such a character? He was pretty powerful.

Deadborder's Avatar

02.03.2012 , 12:05 AM | #34
Oh gods, Baras.

It's impossible to take this guy seriously at all. He looks ridiculous, and not just because he's a fatarse. Well, yeah, that doesn't help any, but that gimp mask of his? It just looks stupid at the best of times, and when you get close-ups, it turns into a pixelated mess. Combined with the frankly terrible character animations of the cut-scenes and he looks more like a puppet then an actual character. The motion issues extend to his shoulder armour. Now, not only does it look pretty damn silly, but the way it folds when he moves is almost embarrassing.

Oh, and then there's his voice. Is he meant to sound menacing? Annoyed? Evil? No. Kind of bored? Mostly. It sounds like his VA showed up one day, put a bucket on his head and kind of slept his way though the recording session, mumbling out his lines with a kind of casual indifference. For the most part, the scenes with him are just dull, livened up only by the opportunity to give him consequence-free sass.

The problem is simple. All of Baras' traits are purely informed attributes. He's allegedly a genius with spies everywhere and an insidious master manipulator. I say allegedly, because there's next-to-no evidence of this in his character beyond "he says so" and none of this alleged genius is ever demonstrated. Taken as just in the context of what you see in-game, he's a titanic fat-butt who's engaged in a pissing contest with his fellow dark lords. We're supposed to be impressed/intimidated by him, but there's no reason to do such.

Now had Baras had a non-fat character model with a visible face that would have helped a lot. Put some darkside corruption on him or some visible scarring, then he'd have had some credibility. As it stands? He's kind of ridiculous-looking

CaptainInsano's Avatar

02.03.2012 , 03:34 AM | #35
Why is he so damn fat?

Merihim's Avatar

02.03.2012 , 06:27 AM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by Lammynator View Post
I don't hate Baras because I think he's just being who he is, which is a Sith. Deception, manipulation, and cruelty.

What I didn't like is how they made him a fat character. I have nothing against fat people. I just don't think it fits him because his comic book character was, well, a thinner old man. As far as his voice is concerned I think he sounds a lot like Hugo Weaving, which is a good thing by the way.

So yeah, not going to spoil anything, but the fact that he is fat bothers me because of what I envisioned him from the comic books and the books.

Seriously, how do you go from this

to this?
Wow a difference indeed..

Guess he couldn't keep his hands off the Big Macs.
"You have allowed this Darklord to twist your mind, untill now, untill now you've become the very thing you swore to destroy"
"Don't lecture me, Obi-wan. I see through the lies of the Jedi. I do not fear the Darkside as you do"

Mrgrocer's Avatar

02.03.2012 , 08:33 AM | #37
I refer to him as Darth Budweiser.... especially after he told me to go party after I turned Jaesa

At times, I have a hard time taking him seriously, his voice and dialogue say spymaster, but his body and body language say buffoon.

Eviceus's Avatar

02.03.2012 , 09:36 AM | #38

I absolutely don't hate Baras, i actually feel sorry for him.

Because its obvius to me he is the misguided thinker among the swords and one day his brain will just not cut it.

And since i'm lightside i will pay my master the last respect by being the one who will swing the saber. At least he could die knowing he succeeded as a teacher, even thou he did not understand the bigger, nobler picture and the future I have in mind for the Empire.

Weezyfb's Avatar

02.03.2012 , 10:02 AM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by CaptainInsano View Post
Why is he so damn fat?
he is an inquisitor not a warrior

lighting in the face

plus he is old, he was not always fat

Chancimus's Avatar

02.03.2012 , 10:33 AM | #40
I just finished the storyline
I went from respecting him as what he was designed to be
someone states before, you become so invested in your champion that you begin to feel what they feel and your options very much show it. I went LS, but i
Although when he took his mask off All of his respect went down the drain, he looked... so... bland, so boring, i was expecting a face i could finally put focus all my hate to. and i get that? come on that was the only thing i didn't care for in the warrior storyline (nit-picky i know) other than that i cant wait to finish out my other storylines.