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Dev Post. PvP Gear stats not getting nerfed + Response to bag Changes

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Dev Post. PvP Gear stats not getting nerfed + Response to bag Changes

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HileyQuiggley
02.02.2012 , 01:01 PM | #11
Works for me

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Jestunhi
02.02.2012 , 01:02 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by AGoldCrayon View Post
Collectively, these forums have the worst community I've seen. Ever.
It's par for the course for a pvp forum in my experience.
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Jestunhi's responses might be just about the the most asinine and pigheaded responses I've ever read on a forum.

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chainsawsamurai
02.02.2012 , 01:02 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Jestunhi View Post
It's a shame they seem to think that we asked for more cent comms and less champ items.
That is what came to mind for me as well.

I never understood why they gave out free Champ items and made the Cent items purchasable with badges anyway, seems like it should have been the other way around.

This way just makes me look back on the 55 levels of Valor I spent before I finally got a 4 piece bonus and think that instead of 3 chap 1 cent I'd have 3 cent 1 champ by the end of it. That doesn't sound very promising at all.

Oh well, I'll have another level 50 by the time this goes live to see how it works out. I look forward to having 8 Champion relics and enough commendations to buy 2 pieces of Cent gear by the time I'm ~50 Valor again.

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Good find, sadly it probably won't shut the screechers up. When I first picked up this game, I was told by a friend that BW forums were the worst cesspool of humanity on the internet, and that people would find reason to complain about the most inane ****.

I laughed because I thought he was joking, but good god, the ammount of crying and wild speculation I've seen here has blown my mind. It's sad that the few rational voices get drowned out by the collective screeching, but I have to agree with him now. Collectively, these forums have the worst community I've seen. Ever.
You sound like you've never played an MMO before. Or been on Xbox LIVE.

Hell, have you been on the internet for longer than a week? The whole damned web specializes in bringing out the D-bag in people.
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Spyde
02.02.2012 , 01:03 PM | #14
People are going to rage.

Over the fact They want you to get T1 Pvp Gear.. Then T2 PvP Gear, Then T3 pvp gear.


People want to skip Tier 1, and go for 2 and 3.


Im ok with this change, i dont have alot of Champ gear either.

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RolyartNala
02.02.2012 , 01:05 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Jestunhi View Post
It's a shame they seem to think that we asked for more cent comms and less champ items.
Use that gray matter between your ears. Why have Tier 1 gear if you're just going to bypass it and go straight to Tier 2? The first bags you can earn should award the first level of PVP gear (and the possibility of getting an occasional T2 is nice).

This is a smart move, and speaking as someone with two level 40ish characters that will be 50 this month, I fully support it. I'd rather have guaranteed T1 than RNG T2.

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Jestunhi
02.02.2012 , 01:07 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by RolyartNala View Post
Use that gray matter between your ears. Why have Tier 1 gear if you're just going to bypass it and go straight to Tier 2? The first bags you can earn should award the first level of PVP gear (and the possibility of getting an occasional T2 is nice).

This is a smart move, and speaking as someone with two level 40ish characters that will be 50 this month, I fully support it. I'd rather have guaranteed T1 than RNG T2.
Learn to read?

It's claimed this is what was asked for, that is incorrect (cetainly in the many threads I have seen, perhaps you can link me to some which support their claim?)

I was not discussing how a system should work, I was discussing how he seems to think this is what we have asked for.
Quote: Originally Posted by AlyxDinas View Post
Jestunhi's responses might be just about the the most asinine and pigheaded responses I've ever read on a forum.

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Vessell
02.02.2012 , 01:08 PM | #17
A lot of folks fail to realize that these bag changes are an overall nerf to quality pvp gear acquisition. New players will have an easy time getting centurion gear and a hell of a time getting champ gear until valor rank 60. I already have full champ gear and still get blowed-the-freek up by certain classes one on one.

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savionen
02.02.2012 , 01:09 PM | #18
Reducing the chance of getting a champion item doesn't make sense. They should have made it where you get centurion and champion tokens form the lowest bag (less champion than centurion) or make it where you can get better bags at say, Valor Rank 40.

Now people will just afk farm Ilum more to get up to Valor Rank 60. Centurion gear still isn't worth the effort, unless you suddenly get like 20 tokens in a bag.

Also, you may as well just use PvE gear until you're Valor rank 60. Columi gear is way easier to get than Centurion will be, and it's much, much better.

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Metalmac
02.02.2012 , 01:09 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by AGoldCrayon View Post
Good find, sadly it probably won't shut the screechers up. When I first picked up this game, I was told by a friend that BW forums were the worst cesspool of humanity on the internet, and that people would find reason to complain about the most inane ****.

I laughed because I thought he was joking, but good god, the ammount of crying and wild speculation I've seen here has blown my mind. It's sad that the few rational voices get drowned out by the collective screeching, but I have to agree with him now. Collectively, these forums have the worst community I've seen. Ever.
Sorry you think you are very rational?

Telling everyone that disagrees with you that they are screeching does not sound rational.

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Kirin
02.02.2012 , 01:10 PM | #20
The reason people are upset is the fact that this fix would've worked ages ago, if they had listened to us then, but now that the majority of players in the 50 bracket have a good amount of Champion gear, it just creates a barrier that can't be surpassed(unless you have godlike luck) until you grind Valor 60.

The only people I've seen get excited over this are the ones who don't seem to understand the vast gap in core stats between Centurion and Champion gear. They think that Centurion gear will make them competitive in PvP, which is untrue unless they are much better than their opponent. I was cutting through Centurion's before I even had a set bonus.

Who wants to fight people in Centurion gear? Let the newbs have it as easy as we did so we can finally have fair-ish fights.