Please, Don't Roll on Items for Another Class in Your Team

This is, of course, your right, which we wouldn't try to take from you.

But I don't think that your actions are going to meaningfully impact the player you're blacklisting, even if your whole guild follows suit.

Then again, maybe it's just me who thinks that, who knows?

There's at least a 4th camp: be courteous to other people and don't insist that you get the loot just because it matches your priority. These are the people who are in favor of folks rolling need for mods/companions/appearance, but not in favor of people rolling need all the time. They're the ones that are fine with someone needing on an item that they want, even if it's an "upgrade".


I wanted to make a hybrid camp with combinations of the three but my initial premise was the three cold war super powers so my goal was to stick to that concept.

My main point was a dig at all the copious verbage and how tiresome it is becoming.

And it will go on because everyone each in the four groups we have been discussing is right. Their loot priority system is valid for them. If there were only groups 2,3, and 4 we wouldn't really be having this discussion, or it would be a short academic one. Unfortunately there is a group that gets really annoying when someone steps out of line from their system -- thus promoting loot drama and discussions like this one.

The upside is that it creates the reason to have a thread that is 1000s of posts long.

I don't honestly care if it impacts them at all. My /ignoring them and telling my guild is more of a safe guard so the people I know will be able to stay away from people like that, if they so choose.

I doubt anyone would care if you needed on a techstaff. I have a problem with smugglers that need on willpower lightsabers. AFAIK they don't have any companions that have willpower as a primary stat, much less that can use lightsabers.

Willpower is a completely useless stat for Smugglers (as are lightsabers). There is absolutely nothing they can do with it. Of course, if it is an orange medium jacket with a willpower armor mod...edit:...and I had not just recently bought a full set of level 40 PVP armor...

Yes I know, which is why that person went on my ignore list pronto. AFAIK there are no medium willpower users, so it would be funny to see a willpower medium armor piece drop.

I'm so happy this thread is still going. I get to see which people can use logic, and which people try to twist the world into getting what they want.

There is no argument.

This horsecrap about "moral high ground" is just that. Horsecrap. What the heck is more fair than everyone rolling dice? No one who is advocating special loot rules has answered that question. If Player 1 wants an item, and Player 2 wants an item, they roll against each other. WHAT IS MORE FAIR?

Unless people are advocating that every player should get the exact loot that they want at all times with no competition, then what else is there to do?

There is so much talk about "well he just needed for his compaion, or for the mods, or for the look, or for whatever, so I deserve it more than he does." Why are you more entitled to loot than anyone else? Why do you get to decide how another player uses his loot? Because you want it more than he does? How do you define that? What if two players have identical classes, specs, stats and gear, and an item drops that they both can use. Who deserves it more? The person who has ran the instance more? The person with more /played time?

Or do you flipping roll on the item and let chance decide?

There are hundreds of factors that someone can argue one way or the other as to why they "need" the item, and just as many reasons why another player needs the item as well. Instead of trying to come up with rules that address each individual possible situation, why not just allow the players a fair chance at the item. (Like rolling dice).


Telling people what they can and cannot (have a chance to) loot is not "more fair" than letting each person decide on their own, and giving each person an equal and fair chance to loot. There is no other argument.

Pay my subscription, and then you can tell me how to play the game. Otherwise, while I am paying for my subscription, I will decide what items I "need". You are not more important than me. I am not more important than you.

That is what the "Group 1" people are advocating for. It's just that you have to use their definition of "want". When your definition of want conflicts with theirs, theirs wins 100% of the time. And the game is broken because it doesn't enforce their view of things.

If it's not an orange one, then it's kind of silly for you to get worked up about it, since it's probably inferior to the one you have.

If it IS orange or purple, they can pull the crystal and enhancement out of it, depending on how it's itemized; neither of those will have willpower.