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So the newly 50's expect to be treated like royalty because?

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So the newly 50's expect to be treated like royalty because?

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Ipsemeter
02.02.2012 , 07:02 AM | #251
A new 50 wearing greens and orange gear from lvl 30 is just as viable for playing player verses player content as as someone who has put in the time and effort to obtain the highest quality gear possible for their preferred play style. Life teaches us that we should expect to have everything handed to us, that if something is too difficult it should be simplified so we can have it, and that hard work, sweat, and tenacity are not desirable traits and will never reward one with anything tangible.

Effectively, Bioware is now stating they will candor to the poor and disenfranchised with a socialistic mentality, taking from those who have worked hard, and giving to those who have not.

What's next, taxes?

Let's change the name from SWTOR to Robinhood The Socialist Group.

When the hell did the communist invade the galaxy anyway? Did the empire see it coming? Did the republic? Was it JarJar who masterminded it?

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Gwal
02.02.2012 , 07:05 AM | #252
Quote: Originally Posted by Bartes View Post
I bet most people here never tried to understand what stats are important in pve and pve. They just want easy wins, free gear.
Time for work now, but I made some interesting SS today. People wearing lvl 40-47 GREENS in lvl 50 WZs, not a single Relic on them. Some of them didn't even had implants.
Just OMG, you get those even from quests for god's sake. What the heck they were doing till now? If they were PvEing they should have AT LEAST lvl 50 blue mods in their gear.If it is so hard, do few space dailies to get 150k credits and then go buy few pieces of purple crafted gear I cannot say much more...
I did it, started to PvP seriously when I dinged 50 (well I enjoyed all PvE quests) now I have full champ (like every slot on my char has Champion in the name), 2 weeks after I started to PvP seriously. I do not play 24/7, I have kids and work and other stuff to do besides playing games.

Maybe so called "fresh 50s" are upset coz they can't faceroll lvl 10 noobs in WZs anymore? Hard to be on the recieving end? Did you feel sorry for those 10-20s you stomped on while you were lvl 48-49? Do you really think they thought it is enjoyable and balanced?

Again, why fresh 50s do not even use stims/adrenals? They are not expensive at all on GTN, you prolly get enough crdits to buy one blue that lasts 120 mins and stays after death even after lost WZ. Wait, you left it in rage coz enemy team scored before yours, right? So you got no medals, no valor, no credits.

You deserve to be obliterated with such attitute! Even if/when they nerf Champion/Battlemaster you whiners will still be owned by good players, no gear is gonna help you. I fail to ralise why people are so blind and don't want to put even lil effort into gearing up.

never gonna look in this thread and similar ones again tbh
What's the purpose of Expertise?

You realise the stat's cancel eachother out don't you?

If two geared battlemasters fight the expertise bonus is the same as them having none at all.

Expertise exists solely to allow PvP grinders to faceroll newbies

Why do you want to be able to harass the newbloods? I have some champ gear and the difference champion alone makes against a fresh 50 is beyond a joke.

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-Steph-
02.02.2012 , 07:06 AM | #253
Quote: Originally Posted by MightyHalo View Post
You could learn to play. That seems like your biggest problem.
Yea I better 'learn to play' because I go from being top medal winner on my side 10-49 to being stomped all over at 50.

Logically of course the fact I hit 50 and suddenly get put against people with Battlemaster/Champion gear couldn't at all be the problem. I'm just that crap I'm suddenly playing against all the awesome people who vastly out skill me and I better just keep mindlessly throwing myself at them until I eventually get 'better'.


I'd rather not 'learn to play' and I'll stick to PVP on my low level alt against all the other **** people like me since I seem to stand a chance against them. But thanks for the suggestion.
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Gwal
02.02.2012 , 07:08 AM | #254
Quote: Originally Posted by Ipsemeter View Post
A new 50 wearing greens and orange gear from lvl 30 is just as viable for playing player verses player content as as someone who has put in the time and effort to obtain the highest quality gear possible for their preferred play style. Life teaches us that we should expect to have everything handed to us, that if something is too difficult it should be simplified so we can have it, and that hard work, sweat, and tenacity are not desirable traits and will never reward one with anything tangible.

Effectively, Bioware is now stating they will candor to the poor and disenfranchised with a socialistic mentality, taking from those who have worked hard, and giving to those who have not.

What's next, taxes?

Let's change the name from SWTOR to Robinhood The Socialist Group.

When the hell did the communist invade the galaxy anyway? Did the empire see it coming? Did the republic? Was it JarJar who masterminded it?

Most absurd post I have ever read

You do realise Bioware are trying to make money, and pleasing the 5% or less that grind 40 hours a week but pay the same as casuals is not a viable business model.

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Tooswifty
02.02.2012 , 07:08 AM | #255
Quote: Originally Posted by -Steph- View Post
Yea I better 'learn to play' because I go from being top medal winner on my side 10-49 to being stomped all over at 50.

Logically of course the fact I hit 50 and suddenly get put against people with Battlemaster/Champion gear couldn't at all be the problem. I'm just that crap I'm suddenly playing against all the awesome people who vastly out skill me and I better just keep mindlessly throwing myself at them until I eventually get 'better'.


I'd rather not 'learn to play' and I'll stick to PVP on my low level alt against all the other **** people like me since I seem to stand a chance against them. But thanks for the suggestion.
so nerf the 10-49 bracket
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Trujan
02.02.2012 , 07:10 AM | #256
Quote: Originally Posted by Gwal View Post
What's the purpose of Expertise?

You realise the stat's cancel eachother out don't you?

If two geared battlemasters fight the expertise bonus is the same as them having none at all.

Expertise exists solely to allow PvP grinders to faceroll newbies
Hmm, not really although it is unfortunately a by product. And they are going to change that.
Its to keep PvPers on a par with PvEers in wz's

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Tooswifty
02.02.2012 , 07:11 AM | #257
Quote: Originally Posted by Gwal View Post
Most absurd post I have ever read

You do realise Bioware are trying to make money, and pleasing the 5% or less that grind 40 hours a week but pay the same as casuals is not a viable business model.
So now its the casuals that are getting pwned? Not my fault you have a life that is more interesting than a video game, unplug and go enjoy.
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MightyHalo
02.02.2012 , 07:12 AM | #258
Quote: Originally Posted by -Steph- View Post
Yea I better 'learn to play' because I go from being top medal winner on my side 10-49 to being stomped all over at 50.

Logically of course the fact I hit 50 and suddenly get put against people with Battlemaster/Champion gear couldn't at all be the problem. I'm just that crap I'm suddenly playing against all the awesome people who vastly out skill me and I better just keep mindlessly throwing myself at them until I eventually get 'better'.


I'd rather not 'learn to play' and I'll stick to PVP on my low level alt against all the other **** people like me since I seem to stand a chance against them. But thanks for the suggestion.
So you took advantage of the 1-49 bracket and want the same advantage in the 50's bracket.

I see now.

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maradigamer
02.02.2012 , 07:13 AM | #259
You know what, reading about losing constantly to geared 50s doesn't sound fun, but what really makes me want to stay in the 10-49 bracket is reading about players getting told off by their own teams for joining a game. That's really messed up and I could see it driving a lot of people to roll alts or unsub.

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Tooswifty
02.02.2012 , 07:14 AM | #260
Quote:
Expertise exists solely to allow PvP grinders to faceroll newbies

Guess being lvl 40+ with lvl 40+ pvp gear needs nerfed as well. Or should they have their own bracket due to the exp on that gear?
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