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Pvp gear nerfs are you freaking kidding?!

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Pvp gear nerfs are you freaking kidding?!

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Lord_Indomitus
02.02.2012 , 05:08 AM | #171
Quote: Originally Posted by -Fenix View Post
Stop copying and pasting the same threads over and over. There should have never been any PVP gear to begin with. PVP is about skill, not gear.
Np, as long as I can get the same PvE gear YOU GET (by PvE), by not PvEing, but by PvPing.
That's the point. I don't care if expertise is removed... but then BM should become exactly the same with the best PvE gear in game. Then it's the PvErs that would cry.

I should not be forced to PvE (in order to PvP), when I find it pointless, not a challenge and boring. That's the point, do you get it now?
Peace is a lie.

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Princz
02.02.2012 , 05:10 AM | #172
Quote: Originally Posted by Lord_Indomitus View Post
Np, as long as I can get the same PvE gear YOU GET (by PvE), by not PvEing, but by PvPing.
That's the point. I don't care if expertise is removed... but then BM should become exactly the same with the best PvE gear in game. Then it's the PvErs that would cry.

I should not be forced to PvE (in order to PvP), when I find it pointless, not a challenge and boring. That's the point, do you get it now?
Well said man... but you are waisting your breath
Princz - Sage healer of the Republic
Fantastico - sneaky assasin of the Empire
"idiots are invincible"

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Safgril
02.02.2012 , 05:14 AM | #173
Quote: Originally Posted by Lord_Indomitus View Post
1. because they COMPLAIN about such a small gap, in a GAME that is SO EASY to get the BEST PvP GEAR... this makes them carebears. Get it now? If not, you are hopeless, don;t waste my time please. I say nothing more than what I am saying. If you see me saying I am the king of gaming, then judge me about saying that. Until I do that, stop commenting about things I HAVEN'T said, stop playing a strawman.

small gap? yeah right? go in your next warzone take off the battlemaster and tell me how you do? Make sure you are using a orange weapon and not that bm weapon..its not what you say but how you act... and you are acting like you are the king of gaming whenever you type the words... "CAREBEAR" LOL

2. The gap is ALREADY small enough, so nerfing PvP gear will result to what I am describing. Have you checked the stats of PvE gear? About the things you say about me going out, etc, meaning the laughable attempts of "personal defamation" while we are discussing a game issue... you can keep making a fool of yourself or you can stay on topic, your choice

LOL small.. again... LOL... its not small.. its why they are making this change in the first place... I dont think you understand the idea behind this... See Bioware/EA is about money... they WANT new players coming in. So if said new player gets to 50 and gets steam rolled.. shoots a person and finds that he barely does any damage.. guess what happens? thats right, he unsubscribes... that means they will lose money. This is on topic. Do you think if they fix the PVP gear they wont touch the PVE gear? I can bet you... that will be balanced in due time too.

3. Do I care if someone will miss me? You confuse me with someone who cares. Btw, your guessing skills suck mate. In fact, I happened to join a 100% lost WZ (while trying to do the freaking daily and go on my alt) 4 times in a row yesterday. Blame BW on this for no deserter debuff. Blame those who actually leave WZs in such a way. Pulling a strawman, trying to tag that on me is funny, because it makes you look like a fool, which you probably are... so.

no just pointing out your attitude about this game... the standard WOW type player who thinks they need to "beat" the game and move on to the next... sorry i Call it as I see it.

For future reference, pulling a strawman and even making personal defamatory atatcks make you look like a fool to the eyes of people with average intelligence and it's them who count (for me) anyway. Ofc you have the right to keep making yourself look like a fool or make a concrete argument about why PvP gear needs nerfing. Still, it would help if you didn't comment on things I never said or implied.

who is more of the fool, the fool who speaks or the fool who responds? You can call me a fool all you want.. But again I am only a fool in your eyes. And makes you a fool for thinking that it makes me a fool in others. Are you finished philosophizing?
Bottom line here is the dollar and player retention... what is best for the game. If you cant see that then it is you who needs to look in the mirror of your selfish ways...

by the way, I dont need overpowering gear to show that I am good. I just need equal gear as everybody else and can show you how I am good. How about you?

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Princz
02.02.2012 , 05:16 AM | #174
Quote: Originally Posted by Safgril View Post

by the way, I dont need overpowering gear to show that I am good. I just need equal gear as everybody else and can show you how I am good. How about you?
We all want the same

But dont make us pve for it....

i will ask you again as i did in another thread ...have you seen the rakata gear?
Princz - Sage healer of the Republic
Fantastico - sneaky assasin of the Empire
"idiots are invincible"

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Arutassin
02.02.2012 , 05:16 AM | #175
Quote: Originally Posted by Dosaexe View Post
So let me get this straight,

People who dedicate 75% or more of there time in game to pvp just to get the gear and strategies down in the warzones.Now have all there hard work and time spent absolutely dumped on because?

Players that hit 50 and didn't spend any of there time pvping are getting beat beacuse they don't have any gear


NO CRAP ! You didn't spend anytime toward it why would you expect to be able to compete against people who spent a majority of there daily time online even before 50 pvping?!

Time and time again I see people with valor ranks less than 20 WHINING and crying in the warzones about getting beat by people who were better geared.

NEWS FLASH - ....DUH

What about the countless number of people who are geared in pvp and barely have any Columi/Rakata gear!? I only have 2 pieces of PVE Gear - So someone who's pvp'd twice or maybe 3 times with no pvp gear

BUT - A full set of columi gear can hold there own agiasnt a person who's valor 65 and worked extremely hard just to get geared out in battlemaster gear.

Thats ridiculous I agree that people should be on a level playing field in PVP but they should HAVE TO WORK FOR IT JUST LIKE WE DID.

Handing them a free ride doesn't fix the fact that they didn't put in the time and I know this is long winded but GIVE ME A BREAK this is BS
From this post I take it you believe the time you spend playing PvP should relate to how easy it is for you to kill another player. That by playing more PvP you expect to be given gear that means you stomp on someone who is the same level as you but is new to PvP?

I take it you do not value skill them? Using your model you could be a terrible player but have played a lot of PvP. The new player could be an incredible player but has no gear as he hasn't spent time PvPing so far. This fight would be dictated by the gear so that the worse layer has an advantage opposed to the skilled players having a skill based advantage.

I think this is wrong. I believe skill should be the number one factor in PvP. Rewards should be vanity items like titles.

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-Kazim-
02.02.2012 , 05:19 AM | #176
Quote: Originally Posted by Samurro View Post
You only pvped for the gear? Epic fail....

I got Battlemaster myself and I have no problems with these changes, because with my experience in PvP I am still better than a fresh dinged 50...
I guess this summarizes it.

Any one who needs a large gear gap to be competitive in PvP is not a PvPer at all. Just another carebear who has no skill or strategy at all.

A real, dedicated PvPer shows his difference with his skill and strategy not with his gear.

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-Fenix
02.02.2012 , 05:20 AM | #177
Quote: Originally Posted by Lord_Indomitus View Post
Np, as long as I can get the same PvE gear YOU GET (by PvE), by not PvEing, but by PvPing.
That's the point. I don't care if expertise is removed... but then BM should become exactly the same with the best PvE gear in game. Then it's the PvErs that would cry.

I should not be forced to PvE (in order to PvP), when I find it pointless, not a challenge and boring. That's the point, do you get it now?
They will be making most gear moddable (meaning taking and placing) before long. Will make more crafting professions viable besides cybertech and biochem. Making expertise mean less does not make PVE gear better. PVE gear won't make you crit for 7k.

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Harabek
02.02.2012 , 05:20 AM | #178
Hehe Bioware managed to piss off all parts of their player-base now :P
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-Fenix
02.02.2012 , 05:21 AM | #179
Quote: Originally Posted by Harabek View Post
Hehe Bioware managed to piss off all parts of their player-base now :P
No, just the vocal minority of carebears parading around, falsely, as PVPers.

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Princz
02.02.2012 , 05:22 AM | #180
Quote: Originally Posted by Arutassin View Post
From this post I take it you believe the time you spend playing PvP should relate to how easy it is for you to kill another player. That by playing more PvP you expect to be given gear that means you stomp on someone who is the same level as you but is new to PvP?

I take it you do not value skill them? Using your model you could be a terrible player but have played a lot of PvP. The new player could be an incredible player but has no gear as he hasn't spent time PvPing so far. This fight would be dictated by the gear so that the worse layer has an advantage opposed to the skilled players having a skill based advantage.

I think this is wrong. I believe skill should be the number one factor in PvP. Rewards should be vanity items like titles.
Yes yes ....totally agree

I want to kill the last boss in 16 man ops with blue gear then.... is that ok? why should i go through all the hard modes and 8 man ops first? If i am skilled i should be able to do it with blue gear and take the spots in raids from people better geared than me....
Princz - Sage healer of the Republic
Fantastico - sneaky assasin of the Empire
"idiots are invincible"