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Pvp gear nerfs are you freaking kidding?!

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Pvp gear nerfs are you freaking kidding?!

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Westwacht
02.02.2012 , 04:34 AM | #161
Quote: Originally Posted by NoTomorrow View Post
To all hardcore PvP, i don't care how much you put into your grinding. If bioware does not provide me a division/league system, where I as a fresh lvl 50 0 rank valor am not forced to fight you, they better come up with some good PvP gear nerf.

I don't care that you feel butthurt. Everyone is supposed to have an adequate challenge based on their gearing with Skill being the only deciding factor. If you do not agree with this, you might just as well cancel divisions in soccer, ice hockey and just about any other sports. If you want this system to stay the same, you are prolly imagining yourself in a formula 1 car overlapping carting kids.
Guess what, if you don't like it, don't play PvP. It's that simple. I don't play PvE because its an easy mode bore fest. People nowadays don't want challange, the want everything handed to them on a golden platter.

All the 'omg, i just dinged 50 and now i get owned in Warzones because everyone has like 17k+ hp while i havent even 12k buffed. PvP stat is so unfair' whining is really amusing.

You can be competitive in PvP with PvE gear, but guess what: You actually have to put some real time into PvE first to gear up.

Boy, the entitlement crowd sure grows stronger every day.

I'm so sorry for you, that you feel butthurt for joining Warzones without even decent PvE gear. Suck it up.

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Leopoldo
02.02.2012 , 04:36 AM | #162
I dont get what the problem is

As a fresh 50 I have not had any real issues competing in PVP, apart from when i didnt have a clue what I was doing in huttball and void but as soon as I learned what the goals were I started being a productive member of my team. I am a Sage with most of my points put into the seer tree, i dont do alot of damage, neither am i an uber healer, i die alot and cant out DPS anyone.

I now have 5 pieces of PVP gear and I am pretty happy, sure the RNG makes it a slow grind but what would i do if i got all my pieces in a week? I do also get frustarted when I open 10 bags in a row and dont get any gear but then I realise its to slow down my progress and i am getting Centurion coms to buy gear.

At the end of the day there are people who cant be bothered putting the effort in or wont learn the tactics for certain Warzones but want all there gear handed to them and unfortunately these players are the ones Bioware want to keep and pander to so they can retain their sub.

If they nerf PVP gear then they need to make aquiring it alot less of a pain, either make it cheaper or increase the drop chance from a bag or get rid of the RNG altogether.

I do agree that they need to start introducing Expertise stat earlier, so adding some to the lvl 40 gear might be a good idea. I dont think however it will make much difference as people wtill wont want to put the effort in or learn the tactis for certain warzones and will still end up finding it hard to win a match and whine about it.

I am not just saying this as i have been lucky with my bags, i have opened about 50 and only gotten 2 champ gear drops but i get the Cent coms and have managed to buy 3 pieces of gear that way

and FYI i do work, i work 60 hours a week which includes 6 hours on a Saturday, so i have limited time to play the game but when i do play i put the effort in and put up with the set backs.

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Lord_Indomitus
02.02.2012 , 04:55 AM | #163
Quote: Originally Posted by Safgril View Post
1. because they PVE does not mean they are carebears.. get over yourself.. you are saying that you are king of what? gaming?

2. how is closing the gap a little making PVE gear better then PVP gear? where in this post did BATTLEMASTER GEAR will be worse then PVE gear? you read much? maybe thats why you are the king of gaming.. how about this... get out some.. put the mouse and keyboard down.. go outside a bit.. get some fresh air... battlemaster will still be the best PVP gear even if they weaken it some..

3. we wont miss you obviously... dont let the door hit you in the bum on the way out... its people like you who quit warzones most likely and complain everybody is crap PVPers... I love seeing how people quit a warzone and we still end up winning... its hilarious... and quite amuzing
1. because they COMPLAIN about such a small gap, in a GAME that is SO EASY to get the BEST PvP GEAR... this makes them carebears. Get it now? If not, you are hopeless, don;t waste my time please. I say nothing more than what I am saying. If you see me saying I am the king of gaming, then judge me about saying that. Until I do that, stop commenting about things I HAVEN'T said, stop playing a strawman.

2. The gap is ALREADY small enough, so nerfing PvP gear will result to what I am describing. Have you checked the stats of PvE gear? About the things you say about me going out, etc, meaning the laughable attempts of "personal defamation" while we are discussing a game issue... you can keep making a fool of yourself or you can stay on topic, your choice

3. Do I care if someone will miss me? You confuse me with someone who cares. Btw, your guessing skills suck mate. In fact, I happened to join a 100% lost WZ (while trying to do the freaking daily and go on my alt) 4 times in a row yesterday. Blame BW on this for no deserter debuff. Blame those who actually leave WZs in such a way. Pulling a strawman, trying to tag that on me is funny, because it makes you look like a fool, which you probably are... so.

For future reference, pulling a strawman and even making personal defamatory atatcks make you look like a fool to the eyes of people with average intelligence and it's them who count (for me) anyway. Ofc you have the right to keep making yourself look like a fool or make a concrete argument about why PvP gear needs nerfing. Still, it would help if you didn't comment on things I never said or implied.
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Puzzlybox
02.02.2012 , 04:59 AM | #164
Eh.

Making the level of competition between PvPers are fine with me. Close games are always more enjoyable than steamrolls.

I'll be concerned if PvErs can walk into WZ's with a significant advantage.
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Samurro
02.02.2012 , 05:01 AM | #165
Quote: Originally Posted by Dosaexe View Post
So let me get this straight,

People who dedicate 75% or more of there time in game to pvp just to get the gear and strategies down in the warzones.Now have all there hard work and time spent absolutely dumped on because?
You only pvped for the gear? Epic fail....

I got Battlemaster myself and I have no problems with these changes, because with my experience in PvP I am still better than a fresh dinged 50...
Style > Skill > Stats

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Trujan
02.02.2012 , 05:01 AM | #166
Just need a level 50 expertise set that we can pre buy with WZ/MERC comms, like the level 40 gear now. Problem solved.

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Lord_Indomitus
02.02.2012 , 05:03 AM | #167
Quote: Originally Posted by Puzzlybox View Post
Eh.

Making the level of competition between PvPers are fine with me. Close games are always more enjoyable than steamrolls.

I'll be concerned if PvErs can walk into WZ's with a significant advantage.
They should enter WZs with NO advantage. If they even step in with a 0.0001% advantage, that's a fail. If they want to lessen the gap between BMs and fresh 50's, they should make CRAFTED PvP gear accessible or something...

Meaning they should "buff" the fresh 50's in PvP and NOT nerf PvP gear... which will result to PvE gears being better than they should, in PvP and thus start getting PvEd by carebears doing their PvE rotations in their welfare epics.
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-Fenix
02.02.2012 , 05:04 AM | #168
Stop copying and pasting the same threads over and over. There should have never been any PVP gear to begin with. PVP is about skill, not gear.

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Princz
02.02.2012 , 05:07 AM | #169
Quote: Originally Posted by -Fenix View Post
Stop copying and pasting the same threads over and over. There should have never been any PVP gear to begin with. PVP is about skill, not gear.
Tell that a full Rakata pve dude that will kick your *** to oblivion in 1 push of a button.
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Adzzy
02.02.2012 , 05:07 AM | #170
Quote: Originally Posted by -Fenix View Post
Stop copying and pasting the same threads over and over. There should have never been any PVP gear to begin with. PVP is about skill, not gear.
pvp gear exists because this game is a pve cooperative game with pvp added on.

Need to just live with that fact.
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