Pvp gear nerfs are you freaking kidding?!

If you pvp with crappy gear at 50, you deserve to get roll-faced, NO if and or buts. I see a whole bunch of people running around with level 42-46 blue/green mods getting 3-4 shotted. Quite frankly these people deserve it. Why? Because they are idiots who do not take pvp seriously. Starting from level 40s I took the time to learn pvp mechanics which is different than leveling rotations. I leveled 5-6 levels just from pvp. When I hit level 49 I spent about 500k credits getting level 49 epic mods, as well as all the unmoddable gears (ear, implants, etc). At level 49 I was roll-facing everyone else and wind up with over 350k damage, 50-60 kills, less than 5 deaths, and 9-11 medals constantly. After several games I got bored and decided to try the level 50 bracket. Turns out my gear was good enough for me to average over 250k damage, 30-40 kills and less than 10 deaths per game. There were distinct classes which would destroy me under certain circumstances and vice-versa. In one of the games I even managed to get an assassin medal against a full champion geared BH (2-3 minutes alone in warzones are so rare).

In conclusion, level 49 epics are good enough to compete against centurion/champion geared people. IF this was a 1v1 all the time and with equal skill, then theoretically the centurion/champion player should probably win more than 50% of the games since winning depends sometimes completely on RNG, but in warzones, if you 1v1 you'll probably have less than 20% health no matter who wins and someone else will come to finish you off. If you are alone and you run into 3 guys then you will get creamed no matter what gear you are wearing. If you play against premades and queue solo, you will probably get roll-faced. If you get roll-faced by a full BM, then you either suck, the class you were fighting is your distinct class killer, or you are trolling around in crappy gear. If you get him down to 15-25% before dying 1v1 then that's not so bad so quit whining and start farming. If you're going to complain about not having enough credits to buy gear from the AH then I don't know what to tell you. Quit this game and find one that gives out free epics for doing nothing.

Fixed that for you

I'm sorry but even though I understand your frustration, I dont agree with you.

I leveled (pve) 1-50. At which point i started pvping. I have done pretty much only pvp for about the last 2 1/2 weeks. I have gotten about 12 bags, so i have earned at least 9600 warzone badges, and gotten nothing to show for it. I ALMOST have enough commendations to buy ONE piece of pvp gear.

Meanwhile pvp is not fun for me at all. Players who have full pvp gear can destroy me at such an unbelievably fast rate. As soon as someone targets me, if they have full expertise gear, i might as well just stand still and die, all they need is one good stun and a couple cooldowns.

How do you think I feel, after 2 1/2 weeks of solid work, having nothing to show for it, while a friend of mine, got about 6-7 bags, (couple from weeklys) and is almost fully slotted out. I'll bet pvp is fun for him! I'll bet its fun for you too. Ultimately it shouldnt take me 3 months with bad RNG to get the same gear you have, just because of bad luck.

Basically people got spoiled.

RNG had too big a chance to crit you an item so it skewed progression.

People weren't meant to grind champion pieces with champion bags but centurion pieces - which were mean to be useful.

Same with BM bags. The main thing to get from them were supposed to be champion commendations and that was supposed to be the time to grind for champion gear.

But because RNG yielded too many positive results people became reliant on it and simply skipped a phase.



Tho I question the sensibility of this change at this stage, when many people are already decked prematurely.

This should be more a "lession learned" for future "pvp seasons" than a fix for this botched round.

1. What you describe is a real problem, but it's a real problem that exists in ALL games.
2. What you describe won't get fixed by NERFING PvP gear, that will only allow PvE carebears to use their PvE gear in PvP and actually have an edge. If I use my PvP gear in PvE, I don't have an adge, quite the contrary. Same should be the case for PvEing carebears.

If you make high end PvE gear better for PvP, then you are forcing PvP players to PvE. That's not only sh.it, but it's a faulty game mechanic. You'll just make us quit this game, which we'll quit anyway, a lot sooner. Why should I be forced or even ar.sed to PvE in a buggy, easy mode, casual PvE game? I don't want to PvE in any game, not fun for me anymore, so I should not be forced to PvE in order to not have a disadvantage in PvP compared to PvErs.

I just want to spend a couple more months leveling, because this is what SWTOR is about, its leveling is AWESOME then PvPing some and move on to a different, better game. So, I just hope PvP in this game doesn't become a complete joke, just to satisfy the crying carebears, who think that PvP is about gear and getting their PvE rotations right.

You're all retarded for discussing something without providing documented truth. I've been through all the patch notes 1.1 - 1.1.2 and there is nothing. They are decreasing the amount of Item tokens from Champion bags - which is necessary as really you shouldn't have that gear under valor 30. They are increasing the tokens in BM bags which is alright I guess.

So stop whining about **** that you can't back up. If you got some legit post from a dev, then yes have a rant fest. Until then stop acting as if this is the end of the game.

And to BW - fix Ilum. Give reps a reason to storm out of their base...let them control that turret instead of letting it be auto fire.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=260731

so?

again I understand what youre getting at. The effort and time that you put in should not mean nothing because someone else can get it super easily now.

But as far as i understand theyre not buffing pve gear in pvp. Someone that can heal for 4k in all good purple pve gear, say all slotted out with augment slot purples. Can turn around and go into a BG and in roughly equal pvp item level gear, heal for 6k.

That isnt going to change. From my understanding, (and im not pretending i am never wrong about these things) when they say they want to close the gap, what they mean is to buy the gear outright you arent gonna have to get 38 tokens, but instead say, 7. I think thats a little more fair than the following system.

AS IT IS NOW:

with the best RNG, someone can get FULLY slotted out by 14 bags.
which equals 11,200 warzone commendations.

with the worst rng, someone like me say, can grind 10400 warzone commendations, and get just enough for one chestpiece. (38 tokens /3 =12.6 (rounded up to 13) 13x800)

*AND YES, I know that this doesnt factor in dailies or weeklies, not that theyre helpful when they dont count half the time anyway*

This game is moderated by whiners and for whiners, period.

You want pink elephants flying around ? cry for them on this forum.

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If You see "Blue Elephants instead of pink" pls use CTRL+U+U.
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enjoy your next game for about a month... people like you will never be satisfied...