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Announcing The Old Republic Guild Summit

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Announcing The Old Republic Guild Summit
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GorZie
02.02.2012 , 02:11 AM | #301
Can you lice stream it and have a live chat so ppl who can not attend get a chance to post questions? What about a weekly podcast were you answer questions?

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JacenHallis
02.02.2012 , 02:13 AM | #302
Quote: Originally Posted by SoulstitchMMO View Post
Sometimes it feels like Bioware is trying to invent the pen to write in space instead of a pencil.
http://www.spacepen.com/

Anyway, this is not Bioware making an "elite class" of players or anything. It is Bioware coming up with a relatively easy way to get people who represent players like themselves so that they can talk in a more intimate setting. For better or worse, guild leaders are the community leaders of the game. The devs recognize this, and so they invited guild leaders.

Theoretically, these chosen people will take the opportunity to voice their concerns, questions and so on to the dev team. These concerns and questions are more than likely shared by a larger number of people. Thus, they are representative of the population.

As someone above said, it may just be that the dev team wants to meet these people personally. Why do you think most employers have face-to-face interviews? There is a whole level of communication that goes on in personal settings that can't come across in text on a forum. There's also a higher signal-to-noise ratio when anonymity is removed from the equation. The devs aren't looking for bootkissers; they're looking for people who will talk to them straight up and tell them what they need to hear without the trapping of internet memes, QFTs, STFUs and so on that are so prevalent on these very forums.

This isn't an either-or proposition, though, which it seems many people for some reason believe. The community team will still troll the forums looking for good, constructive criticism as well as praise, and they will then pass this information on to the dev team. That doesn't change simply because Bioware decides to meet some people face to face.
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Liberate
02.02.2012 , 02:15 AM | #303
The people picked won't say a word, and will only praise bioware. I can't wait to see the hard hitting questions and concerns brought to the table
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Ellvaan
02.02.2012 , 02:18 AM | #304
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DTuloJr
02.02.2012 , 02:20 AM | #305
Quote: Originally Posted by mitrikzoltan View Post
If you want to tell us whats going on, TELL US! Your failure to communicate is epic. I could point to loads of threads where you decided to give an answer, and the answer did not address the questions of the topic. But in most cases you just choose to be silent.
In all fairness, anything the devs wind up saying is held against them, by SOMEONE (usually me). James Ohlen's September 23, 2011 Gamasutra interview pretty much sums up something that was probably meant in a neutral manner, but comes off as one of the most purely arrogant and egomaniacal things any developer has ever said; "But at the same time, it's good for fans to feel like they're having an impact, and sometimes they do. Sometimes they do point out information that is a little bit surprising, but nothing hugely surprising. There's been surprises on the project, but mostly they've come from us playtesting this stuff." He basically confirmed that yeah, they were pretty much ignoring the opinions of all of their beta testers...

Maybe this is finally damage control for that interview.
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Expo-Nential
02.02.2012 , 02:25 AM | #306
So soon? Kinda ballsy imo, considering all the technical issues so far.

Also, I am curious to know how people can discuss the state of a game, if so many basic things about the game are broken.
If you want to know what parts of this game the players think could be improved, read these forums
Its pretty simple.
Not sure what dragging (apparently) 'insider' guild leaders to Texas is going to accomplish in terms of fixing the game.
Just seems like lots of wasted money to me.

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DTuloJr
02.02.2012 , 02:25 AM | #307
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FIXED:
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mitrikzoltan
02.02.2012 , 02:28 AM | #308
Quote: Originally Posted by DTuloJr View Post
In all fairness, anything the devs wind up saying is held against them, by SOMEONE (usually me). James Ohlen's September 23, 2011 Gamasutra interview pretty much sums up something that was probably meant in a neutral manner, but comes off as one of the most purely arrogant and egomaniacal things any developer has ever said; "But at the same time, it's good for fans to feel like they're having an impact, and sometimes they do. Sometimes they do point out information that is a little bit surprising, but nothing hugely surprising. There's been surprises on the project, but mostly they've come from us playtesting this stuff." He basically confirmed that yeah, they were pretty much ignoring the opinions of all of their beta testers...

Maybe this is finally damage control for that interview.
Sad. This is exactly what they want to do: make players feel like you have an impact, when in fact you don't. We know they have everything planned out years ahead. They will hold this summit, people will voice their opinions,chances are some of those opinions coincide with BW plans for the near future, so they can say: "See? We DO listen to the feedback you give."

Nothing will change.

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Madgedull
02.02.2012 , 02:29 AM | #309
Quote: Originally Posted by Scorpienne View Post
I'm glad that Bioware is investing in the long-term by soliciting the GLs for information.

Good GLs spend a lot of time organizing people and helping them have fun playing SWTOR. They become one of the more potent "retention forces" for subscriptions AND they become part of a very loose system of behaviorial checks and balances for the community.

Good for you, Bioware. If my guild gets a seat I'd be more than willing to spend some of my vacation $$$ to come see you guys in Austin.


Paige
+1 - I would also hazard a guess that all the folk whining about the Guild Summit are the same ones who were whining about not getting early game access the very first second it was available.

I think it is a great idea, and all kudos to BW for doing this.

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Scritty
02.02.2012 , 02:43 AM | #310
I'm on my third guild so far. First one was destroyed at launch by being put on a server with an all night queue (and many quit before they had ever logged in once). Second had about 50 members and just drifted apart as people stopped playing at the beginning of January.
The third is going the same way. Had 50+ members, but now has maybe 2 or 3 online in the peak playing hours (mid evenings and weekends).
All three on different servers as I can't find a server that actually has much of a player base at all - essp for Republic. Sometimes play an hour in open PvE without seeing another PC.

Apparently the game is doing well, and there are some succesfull guilds. I'd love to find one.
Paid up till April 20th. Please give us more to do than just combat between now and then. Interactive professions... decent trade mechanics... secondary professions... decent guild set-ups... anything?!