Please, Don't Roll on Items for Another Class in Your Team

Eh?

"Dial back your definition of need" means "Don't roll". Often accompanied by "If you do, I'll kick you from the group, blacklist you in our guild, and try to make sure you never get a group again."

I'm relatively sure I could find plenty of actual explicit quotes of people saying you couldn't roll on something that wasn't just for your class, but that is such a hair-splitting semantic defense it's pretty obvious it means the same thing.

Edit: LOL. I just looked up. The THREAD TITLE: "Please, don't roll on items for another class in your team".

Yeah, NOBODY'S said you can't roll :P Unless you assume it's all OK because they said "please" before threatening to kick you out of the group.

You've created a completely fictional scenario, removed anything remotely resembling context, very specifically crafted to show what you want it to. In your scenario, would it be better to gear the players? Almost certainly, which is why you created it with the parameters you did, and won't entertain reality.

Try mine:

I'm in a Flashpoint with three other players. Those other players are all going to quit the game and never return as soon as we finish this flashpoint. What should I roll on?

<shrug> Controlling away everything that doesn't support your point makes for a rather false argument.

"Going with the 'need' what you 'need'. And assuming the other 3 also do the same, it is indeterminable what the loot distribution will be."

No, it isn't. As I wrote: it is the EXPECTED VALUE of the loot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expected_value

Therefore, on average, you will end up with LESS output from you and your companion under Method B (as I've defined in my previous posts.)

A = Player Upgrade
B = Companion Upgrade

A > B
A > .25A + .75B

I read your post. I find hour assumptions and the numbers resulting from them highly dubious at best.

And did I not specifically say I do not roll need on everything that drops? Are you incapable of reading that part of my post, incapable of comprehending that part of my post, or just flat out ignoring it?

I give my old gear for my companions if they can use it or if it's upgrade for them. You also pick up a lot of gear not meant for your class when you do "solo" content.

I give my old gear for my companions if they can use it or if it's upgrade for them. You also pick up a lot of gear not meant for your class when you do "solo" content.

You're trying to hinge your statistics on a known agreement. Which I already have stated works. However, that rarely happens in pugs. So my point still stands. If I stuck to rule of law and needed everything, I could, win everything. Not something I'd do, but random is random.


Your argument is so specific as to guarantee each player an item, so of course it is better. But, MMOs pugs don't run like that.

The argument is a fruitless exercise.

If your content in keeping your companion in old outdated gear thats fine. Its your companion and your choice.

Please dont ask me to limit myself similarly.

From random drops, sure, but not from missions. Missions give you items based on your class.

So, to clarify, you admit that given the two choices at the beginning of a 4/8 man zone:

A. Player Need > Companion Need > Greed
B. Player or Companion Need > Greed

You would pick A?

With all your proviso's yes.