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True Competition Throughout History Shows Gear PvP Is Wrong

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True Competition Throughout History Shows Gear PvP Is Wrong

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EternalFinality
02.01.2012 , 04:54 PM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by Voloon View Post
Gawd, I'm so sick of these posts about gear. Get over it. Yes, in competition, ideally, you'd want people with the same gear, the same skill, the same classes, the same everything. That isn't life, nor would pvp or sports be very interesting if it was.
Uh....what? You think the Super Bowl should be the Patriots against the Colts then? The best team vs the worst team, because trying to have equal match ups isn't "interesting"?

Are you insane? Lopsided match ups are boring, both for the people watching and the people playing!

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Delavager
02.01.2012 , 04:55 PM | #62
You are playing the wrong game.

Go play Madden on XBox or the like.

This is an mmoRPG. If you don't like the idea of building your character then GO PLAY A DIFFERENT GAME!

Also your whole argument is flawed because DIFFERENT CLASSES ARE DIFFERENT.

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Kelticfury
02.01.2012 , 04:55 PM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by GameNirvana View Post
snip blah snip
Yeah those Romans didn't need gear to make an empire.

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EternalFinality
02.01.2012 , 04:57 PM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by Delavager View Post
You are playing the wrong game.

Go play Madden on XBox or the like.

This is an mmoRPG. If you don't like the idea of building your character then GO PLAY A DIFFERENT GAME!

Also your whole argument is flawed because DIFFERENT CLASSES ARE DIFFERENT.
What does "building your character" such that it is persistent advantages in PvP have to do with RPGs? Nothing.

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Voloon
02.01.2012 , 04:57 PM | #65
This isn't the Super Bowl. Not to mention each player will have different heights, muscle strength, positions, to different experience to the stadium, or what they ate that morning. No one said anything about pairing the worst players against the best players is a good thing. That's something YOU inferred because of your bias.

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EternalFinality
02.01.2012 , 04:58 PM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by Voloon View Post
This isn't the Super Bowl. Not to mention each player will have different heights, muscle strength, positions, to different experience to the stadium, or what they ate that morning. No one said anything about pairing the worst players against the best players is a good thing. That's something YOU inferred because of your bias.
YOU are the one who suggested sports wouldn't be interesting if the teams were equal. Don't try to backpeddle now.

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Acyu
02.01.2012 , 04:59 PM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by Kolbenito View Post
Sports comparisons don't work. E-Sports comparisons are fair though, but what MMO has ever been an E-sport? WoW. In tournaments everyone has equal access to vendors to buy whatever they want and the most powerful items are usually removed.

This is an MMO on retail servers with trivial PVP that doesn't mean anything yet in a game that is 5 weeks old. When rated Warzones come out there will probably be a change to make getting the pvp gear easier.
Exactly.

A retail MMO environment is not a "competitive" e-sport environment. Nor are all the players "professional players." WoW arena vs. WoW arena tournaments are exactly that.

You can't make everyone "play on an even field," because normal players PAY to have fun and compare e-peens, while for tournaments players GET PAID.

Until the graphic/frame rate/responsiveness of this game, the basic basic instrastructure is fixed, there can be no competitive SWTOR PvP regardless.

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Voloon
02.01.2012 , 05:00 PM | #68
As I mentioned in my post, there are differences already, because you can't comprehend that is not my problem, nor is it Bioware's problem you're playing the wrong game. There's plenty of great pvp games that don't have gear differences, I play a few of them. This ISN'T one of them.

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Moriam
02.01.2012 , 05:01 PM | #69
Quit whining. Just get the gear and then you are even footing. I happen to think that only skilled players should get the gear in a rating system.

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EternalFinality
02.01.2012 , 05:02 PM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by Voloon View Post
As I mentioned in my post, there are differences already, because you can't comprehend that is not my problem, nor is it Bioware's problem you're playing the wrong game. There's plenty of great pvp games that don't have gear differences, I play a few of them. This ISN'T one of them.
It is Bioware's problem they didn't make a good PvP game.