What does the 1-49 bracket teach us about PVP gear?

Dude, WEAPONS.

No I am not talking about Centurion or Champion or any blue/purple pvp gear.

I am talking about the guy who sell orange pvp weapons from lv12~46 who stand next to the pvp quest terminal.

And it is "you are" or "you're" not "YOUR."

And this will do WHAT exactly for the level 50? I am wearing a suit of armor right now that I pulled the Expertise mods out of weapons for. It is useful for a while but it will not help you when you hit 50. The max amount of expertise you can get is miniscule.

This is a well made point.

You can get roughly ~100-150 expertise. I'm not sure how much that helps tbh but people are screaming that starting at "zero expertise" is the entire problem. I don't think it is, but if you do, then you can start at at least 100.

The reason for player leaving lv50 brackets, lets see how about "not enough lv50s cause queue time for over 2 hour, re-roll a lv10 only takes 1 hour and a queue time of 5min?"

I can make up a "well made point", too.

you really have no idea of the disparity between a champ geared player and someone has no expertise do you? let me give you a good example.

Level 20 player fights level 49 player now the 20 is bolstered up so he's at level 50 stats so is the 49. Now 49 has like 2% expertise form his level 40 set hardly going to make a difference. Two go toe to toe! the 20 gets the 49 to 25-35% hp before he dies.

now lets check level 50 situation!

level 50 fresh player with all purple 49 set, goes into pvp vs a champ geared player. The 50 proceeds to TWO SHOT the level 50 player instantly killing him inside of first 5-6 seconds of combat.

The difference between a fresh 50 and someone has basic champ/centurion set is IMMENSE! your taking 5-6k crits on average, your hp is only about 12k in comparison to someone has champ set and is sitting at 15k hp. On top of this cant even hurt them because of the 15% damage reduction, and 15% healing increase. What it amounts to is this...anyone NOT in champ/centurion gear is on /farm and that is what people are griping about.

Also i kinda have to laugh at whole " BUT THEY ARE MORE SKILLED IF THEY HAVE CHAMP/BM!" what? what? i don't even... let us examine this! =D

Champ bags are gained through dailys, or via buying bags on pvp vender, BM bags are aquired through VALOR grinds! thus in order to get gear only requires one thing.... /afk in warzones. Yes you heard me i can enter a warzone and do NOTHING and still gain enough valor and badges to aquire said gear.

SKILL IS NOT A FACTOR!

you do not need to be good at pvp to aquire pvp gear, only time or a program to constantly que you for warzones and run out the front gate. Not that hard to get said programs and yes might get you banned but, most are macro programs and its hard to bann those since only clicking screen.

So whole post hardly makes any sense we aren't asking for gear to be removed or progression to go away. We ARE asking that either a starter set to give us a decent amount of expertise so we are not 2 shot by champ/BM(we will still lose just not in 2.5 seconds) and actually have some semblance of a chance. Right now is no reason to que for warzones because all of the premades are just FARMING non-geared players.

THAT ISNT FUN
THAT ISNT ENJOYABLE

Frankly do you expect us to just deal with it? much rather play a lowbie in 1-49 then be on /farm from those are in high end gear. so as i said...

either remove the premade/champ/bm geared players from warzones or give us a decent crafted starter set or purchased set so we can actually stand up to them. But REAL issue is expertise and what its doing..untill that is fixed none of this matters.

NO NO NO NO NO NO, this is not why most people pvp... they pvp for pvp gear because they would rather smash other players than run ops over and over. If you would like a gear free pvp bracket be my guest but no one will be playing.

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The bigger difference will be the fact that most people are in blues around item rating 100 while the geared players will be in epics around item rating 120-140, before the expertise even comes into play.

But yeah pulling out the weapon mods and filling in the rest with the best mods you can find is probably the best way cushion the impending roflstomp.

People have already posted in this thread that they agree with me and are doing the exact same thing. And are motivated by the better PVP pre-50.

Fail.

People are rerolling because they get owned against 50s and need a talent point / ability advantage to do well (i.e. they enjoy being the level 40 in a warzone full of level 12s). Anyone who thinks 10-49 is competitive is an idiot.