Gear based PvP is amateur hour

GW 2 is a MMO and their approach is:

"When a player takes a character into PvP, they are granted access to all the necessary skills, items, etc. Characters are set to the maximum level, putting everyone on an even playing field. This makes player skill more important than time invested in a particular character. When you take your character back to the PvE environment, you return to the skills and gear you had there, but the game will save your last PvP setup. You'll also be able to store templates for builds. This way, you can try out new stuff in PvP but still easily return to your familiar builds."

SW:TOR approach is: Let 50s farm 10s for a month, give them their own bracket now since they have farmed their BM gear and now let them farm fresh 50s getting geared. World pvp, lets let the higher population camp the lower population until they have farmed their BM gear in one day.

Can I get a list of all the MMO's that are Major E-Sports today?



That was the list
There are none.

.People have been wanting a PvP game that was based on their ability, as opposed to what they wear, for years. This is not it.


PvP'ers (unless you live with Mom) have been looking for this for years. SWTOR is not it.

Tell that to the millions of SC and LoL players, both of which are pvp games based on skill not getting the advantage of gear.

Your arguement for that may be:
But one is a RTS and the other a MOBA, they are not MMORPGs.

My response:
GW2 approach is very similar in skill over gear in pvp, which is a MMORPG.

GW2 isn't out- also, most of the SC fans are in a part of the world where grindfest mmos like Perfect World have millions upon millions of subs.

Also, it's easier to get 'subs' for a game that has no fee. Put a monthly fee on SC, LoL and GW2 and watch that sub base plummet.

The people that want skill-based PvP are the people that enjoy PvP for PvP's sake. The problem is that's a small minority of the customer base. Catering to us would be business suicide.

Bad PvP'ers will always need a gear crutch.

A sad but true fact...

Sorry a game is the only sense of accomplishment and identity some of you have.

Same stat pvp seems carebear to me, but that's coming from an MMO pvper.

If you want that, play Guild Wars. or wait for GW2...or better yet, play one of the thousands of free games that are skill based and not gear based.

MMO pvp always has been and always will be impacted by gear. get over it. anyone who says otherwise is the carebear. it's part of mmo pvp. qq.