100% of Nerf threads are from bad players

And yet that isn't what 100% of the nerf threads are, so sounds more like you're taking something rather personally and enjoy making attacks on people because of it.

Real trash are the ones who ignore evidence, who ignore the opinions of others because of their own arrogance rather then thinking things through. The ones who insult people because they think differently. The ones who make up lies to try and downplay the truth.

If you think all that is better, well... its no wonder humanity suffers.

Agree , but as a goof player you must understand that if you take 2 equal good players and i mean really equal with equal gears and 2 different classes then still there wont be the perfect inch to inch balance and those 2 players wont die both at the same time )))

Imbalances are in every game but sometime they are so little and you can't find 2 equal players (people are all different from each other, always one is better than other) that its unoticable.

But yes good players do all they can to improve them selves before they even assume of any other class being OP.

Thats a BS post if i have ever seen one,people TOP charts with these casters due to having them stacked in groups and no counter to this overpopulation of this class.

I dont know what game your playing but the very first toons with BM gear on my server were these Imperial casters that are nothing less than 4 to 5 per a WZ.

Some guy commented yesturday that "You just need to disrupt them for 4 sec's" thats a joke if i ever seen one,like five players in a pug are going to time to interrupt five casters at the same time,or even three?

The reality and what ppl post on this forum 85% of the time is fantasy,im about done posting in this forum because i have never seen so many people in utter denial and lie through there teeth day in and out,i have better things to do with my time.

I like turtles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMNry4PE93Y

100% of people watching that clip end up liking turtles too.

i agree there is nothing wrong with calling for a nerf, but people who go about doing it in a matter not only accusitory to Bioware but the player base is just uncalled for.

if there is a legit complaint air that complaint then move on.

bioware does not look at the debates we have and say" aaaaahh beardedwonder7 makes a good point, all those noobs do need to stop whining and l2p like champs," "yeah but look here on page 134 i_hate_people_smackmouth23 brings up avery valid response about the op having a tiny weiner and how is mom probably makes him hot pockets while he is bursting the target down"

they jsut dont. its not about who wins these silly arguments. if someone brings up a valid point they read and respond. and most of the time ive read they just address a misconseption someone has about something or bring light to an issue.

It makes total sense that a bad player would think this about the OP.

If a bad player could wrap their head around this idea they probably wouldnt be as bad.

Did you seriously just try and use this as a viable counter to pre nerf Ops/Smuggs? I'll indulge you:

1. I and many like me, are not Immortal Juggs so off the bat we have no Backhand to use.

2.The standard "here's how you deal with them" reply revolves around a 2 min CD ability being up. Bad design.

3. Then you ask that I use my aoe fear, sure ok but this does what exactly? Best case scenario I buy myself 6 seconds to walk somewhere, worst case someone hits them and they get up immediately. I can't use this offensively because it breaks on damage and the Op already has the upper hand by me being down to 40% HP.

4. You then ask me to use my "bubble" which I'm going to assume you mean Saber Ward which is in no way a "bubble" AND has a 3 MIN CD.

5. Since I already said I don't have Backhand you then suggest Choking them..which does..what for me? I have to channel it, it's useless. All I'm doing is givin them a full resolve bar after using an aoe fear on them.

Am I thinking enough for you guys? I don't recall crying or whining either, I said they were out of whack and they are. No where in your perfect scenario of defense does it change the fact that the Op/Smugg still got in anywhere from 5-8k damage on you before you were able to start activing your own defenses.

I should also note that, as predicted, the GOOD Ops/Smuggs are doing just fine post patch, the only difference is now I have to use break free on their follow up CC instead of the knockdown and I stand back up with slightly more HP and we get to actually have a decent fight after the opener.

Although personally my favorite way to deal with them, at least in Huttball, is to push them into the nearest acid pit and choke them.

Ding ding ding ding!!! We have a winner!

A thread which analyzes a skill or ability, mathematically, and compares it to others like it, and questions if its working properly, with discussion, is not a nerf thread.

The threads I am referring to are mindless, "nerf Sorcs" or "nerf BHs" threads, with no substance, almost always contain lies/falsehoods about class abilities, and lack any sort of rational basis for discussion.

i used to be like OP dumb and numb
then one day i got destroyed by scoundrel without having a chance to fight back.
they were overpowered class period, as annoying sorc/sages/commando/merc are they are still beatable. OP/scoundrel were just too much. even devs admitted that there attack were over tuned.

See, I agree with you on this, but to say its 100% of the time is just as bad. Neither extreme is better than the other in the long run. There's very little appreciation for the middle ground. Hell, much of the time people have the gall to treat the other side like idiots who don't pay attention, and that causes esculation from those that do.

Except you say every thread, and while yes, there are lies left and right, I'll agree, I'm sorry, but if you're saying none of it has valid points? You're just as bad. You're not adding to any discussion. You're just basically crying "wah, I don't want things to be nerfed"