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Grilltusk
02.01.2012 , 11:32 AM | #221
Quote: Originally Posted by H-aTreD View Post
I honestly love how everyone has a simple solution to the problem. If it's not LOS or Interupt, it's L2P. That's fine and I agree when you're in a 1v1 situation. However, last night in a lowby bracket on my alt got into a Civil War against 7 BH's spamming tracer missle and a Sorc spamming lightning. Theres nothing you can do against 7 of them, FOTM > tactics or your so called "skill" and L2P.
Simple are solutions with merit yes.
After every offensive ability has been listed, gone thru extensive forum qq and has seen a nerf, whats next > Omg healers are OP reduce their healing?
Omg defensive CD's etc
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Kuari
02.01.2012 , 11:33 AM | #222
Quote: Originally Posted by MadWicket View Post
Guys really do not blame us for spamming if bioware made this one ability so centralized around our other abilities. Tracer missile ffs takes 2 secs to cast and has a push back AND can only be done at most 4 times (4 times is that really all your health!), ANDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD we can't move. So all of you saying we are RUNNING around spamming this ****. Seriously please roll a merc and actually see why we spam it, it really isn't that great its just the only option we are basically given.
push back can be reduced by 75% and largely made up for my alacrity. Also umm... *looks at the abilities that reduce the heat cost and the one that vents some on crits and then stares* ... only 4 times? Really? Why do people always think everyone else is stupid?
Standards are made to be broken.
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Grilltusk
02.01.2012 , 11:36 AM | #223
Quote: Originally Posted by MadWicket View Post
Guys really do not blame us for spamming if bioware made this one ability so centralized around our other abilities. Tracer missile ffs takes 2 secs to cast and has a push back AND can only be done at most 4 times (4 times is that really all your health!), ANDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD we can't move. So all of you saying we are RUNNING around spamming this ****. Seriously please roll a merc and actually see why we spam it, it really isn't that great its just the only option we are basically given.
U dont play merc do you?
Its a 1.5 second cast and you CAN cast it more than 4 times. talented it costs 16 heat, and during the cast times heat reduces itself still. So youre looking - if you have any desire to spam it - at at least 6 casts.
Just saying, since youre stating this from a 'we' perspective, implying that you play one
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RycheMykola
02.01.2012 , 11:40 AM | #224
Quote: Originally Posted by Kuari View Post
Really, your most basic ability that does minimal damage... ok, I'll bite, go ahead and try it, but show the whole warzone fight.
Sure. I watched the PVP videos with TM spam. The team that has the spammer on there team loses 90% of the time either 6-0 in huttball, 600-0, or shut out in the other wz.

The people they are shooting at to are just standing around like idiots or running around like a chicken with its head cut off.

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Kuari
02.01.2012 , 11:43 AM | #225
Quote: Originally Posted by RycheMykola View Post
Sure. I watched the PVP videos with TM spam. The team that has the spammer on there team loses 90% of the time either 6-0 in huttball, 600-0, or shut out in the other wz.

The people they are shooting at to are just standing around like idiots or running around like a chicken with its head cut off.
Not everything revolves around huttball. Yeah you can make the argument they are sucky ball carriers, but not much else.

Seriously, not everyone only looks at a couple things and knee jerks when it comes to things like this. For a long time I thought it was sort of ok until it started building up to be more and more common and people started figuring out the tricks.
Standards are made to be broken.
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Grilltusk
02.01.2012 , 11:46 AM | #226
Quote: Originally Posted by Kuari View Post
Not everything revolves around huttball. Yeah you can make the argument they are sucky ball carriers, but not much else.
Thats not the argument he made.
Spamming tracer missile in anything else than huttball makes you a squishy sitting duck, since 'spamming' it will leave you standing still for at least 10-15 seconds and anyone with half a brain will come kick your behind, especially since they can safely assume your heat level will be at such a point there is little defense/offense he/she will have left.

Now youre just whining.
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Kuari
02.01.2012 , 11:49 AM | #227
Quote: Originally Posted by Grilltusk View Post
Thats not the argument he made.
Spamming tracer missile in anything else than huttball makes you a squishy sitting duck, since 'spamming' it will leave you standing still for at least 10-15 seconds and anyone with half a brain will come kick your behind, especially since they can safely assume your heat level will be at such a point there is little defense/offense he/she will have left.

Now youre just whining.
Squishy? Ok, right there you lost credibility.
And they're certainly not getting their behind kicked unless they're getting ganged up on.
Not even to mention defensive cooldowns
Also that's pretty much exactly the argument he made. "oh, they're shooting a lot of people in huttball but their team is losing. *eyeroll* That's not even an argument really beyond they are not much good at helping out with ball carrying. If someone runs from them, they're going to escape, but that doesn't mean a whole lot in the grand scheme of things.
Standards are made to be broken.
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RycheMykola
02.01.2012 , 11:50 AM | #228
Quote: Originally Posted by Kuari View Post
Not everything revolves around huttball. Yeah you can make the argument they are sucky ball carriers, but not much else.

Seriously, not everyone only looks at a couple things and knee jerks when it comes to things like this. For a long time I thought it was sort of ok until it started building up to be more and more common and people started figuring out the tricks.
You can win 600-0 in huttball?

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Kuari
02.01.2012 , 11:53 AM | #229
Quote: Originally Posted by RycheMykola View Post
You can win 600-0 in huttball?
That part I'm not even believing as being common so I chose to ignore it. To put it bluntly, either you're lying or you're watching some messed up videos. It takes being farmed for the 600-0s to happen. No one on the losing team is going to be doing jack that's notable, not even deal significant damage and certainly not getting all that many kills.
Standards are made to be broken.
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Qeuzolt
02.01.2012 , 11:56 AM | #230
Quote: Originally Posted by Kreugen View Post
I still want to know what you think mercs should be doing when our other attacks are on cooldown.
When my attacks are on CD I use my rifle shot, its crits for 500,500 and not very often, most of the time it misses, or gets deflected. It also doesn't put a stacking armor pen debuff on the target or affect any of my harder hitting abilities, CD or DMGpct. Maybe if they nerf TM/GR to be in line with everyone's free attack this would be a viable point...
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