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Leaving warzones is an epidemic...

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Leaving warzones is an epidemic...

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Aowar
02.01.2012 , 11:51 AM | #61
An easy solution to the leaving problem, stop being terrible players. This would fix 80 to 90 percent of the leaving.

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Rehash
02.01.2012 , 11:52 AM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by Lexster View Post
Is it better for people to leave or simply stand just out of the spawnpoint and do nothing? Might as well let em go.
This. If you add a penalty for leaving people will just find creative ways/places to be AFK. I'd rather they just left.

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EscVelocity
02.01.2012 , 11:54 AM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by richardya View Post
So if I queue with you, me and six other people will probably lose because we start shorthanded as we wait for the game to find a replacement.
Thanks, as long as you get what you want this seems reasonable and not selfish.
Just admit you leave when your team is down and queue with another team, or make a better excuse.

Every time I get civil war:

I tell everyone I'll go left and name the turret. "I need one more with me". Someone says they'll go. We leave and land, and 6 people run left.
Whenever I beg someone nicely to leave the far right turret because we have middle and left and one of them is suffering an onslaught, that person usually starts raging and implying that I'm a self-righteous d-bag who doesn't pay for their game, or whatever, something negative usually.

So yeah, I think if I refuse to join this wz because of my consistent experiences, I should definitely be punished. In fact, ban my account, and transfer all my remaining paid time to the people who aren't accomplishing the objectives. That'd be even better!

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Organikal
02.01.2012 , 11:57 AM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by lexiekaboom View Post
This isn't people jobs they do it for fun.

I'm valor 60+ and I don't need anything from WZs but a win. When I zone in and it's already 0 to 4 in huttball or my viodstar team lets the bomb get planted in 30 seconds, why would I stay?

No really, why?

Because I somehow care about 7 random people? Because it will be fun losing to an unbalanced team? Because ... some responsibly to "team members" who were randomly assigned to me? You're nuts.

The only thing I care about is my time, which is extremely limited. Bioware made the worst quest system possible by saying "JUST FARM WINS" so that's what I'm going to do.

I leave huttball 100% of the time unless I'm in a pre-made

I leave void star if we lose round 1

I leave civil war as soon as they 3 cap or the game is no longer winnable

I leave any WZ is I'm solo fighting two 4 man pre-made groups, every time.

Don't like it? Neither do I. But I have to get my daily done. So stop complaining about "people leaving" and start complaining about "the stupidest quest system that could possible be put into a PVP game ever". The first is never going to change until the second changes.

Look at it this way; you go to work and you can pick a random job from a hat and do it. No limitation to the number of times you can pick. The first one you pick is "clean the bathrooms with your bare hands and don't get paid for it". You are honestly STUPID if you don't put it back in the hat until you pull "Do nothing all day, get paid"
The ONLY part of this i agree with is the 60+ ONLY needing a win. For anyone who is not valor 60 to leave their team behind is ridiculous and needs to be penalized. I realize to fix the issue it needs to be nipped at the source (BW that's you -> Daily quests) but in the mean time a temporary fix (BW loves band-aids) would be nice. Even if it's a 5 minute debuff it's still something.

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richardya
02.01.2012 , 11:57 AM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by EscVelocity View Post
Every time I get civil war:

I tell everyone I'll go left and name the turret. "I need one more with me". Someone says they'll go. We leave and land, and 6 people run left.
Whenever I beg someone nicely to leave the far right turret because we have middle and left and one of them is suffering an onslaught, that person usually starts raging and implying that I'm a self-righteous d-bag who doesn't pay for their game, or whatever, something negative usually.

So yeah, I think if I refuse to join this wz because of my consistent experiences, I should definitely be punished. In fact, ban my account, and transfer all my remaining paid time to the people who aren't accomplishing the objectives. That'd be even better!
I don't believe you. I believe this happens 1 in 10 times. You actually leave because you dont like losing. I play this game too and it doesn't happen to me.

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Northwynde
02.01.2012 , 11:58 AM | #66
I am sick and tired of going into a match already in progress, where its a lost cause or almost(0-4 down in huttball, 400 to 220 in civil war or in voidstar the attackers have already gotten past the first 2 doors in 2 minutes). Put a deserter debuff so these clowns can't fish for quick wins. 10 to 15 minutes would be good enough.

Secondly, let me opt not to enter games in progress. Its 99% of the time going to end up with me being put on the losing side.

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lexiekaboom
02.01.2012 , 11:59 AM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by Aowar View Post
An easy solution to the leaving problem, stop being terrible players. This would fix 80 to 90 percent of the leaving.
Video of an AWESOME player grouped with 7 people with 10k HPs winning vs. a pre-made battle master group with vent please?

What? No video because that's never happened? Ok then, **** troll.

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Fokman
02.01.2012 , 11:59 AM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by richardya View Post
So if everyone was like you every single warzone would end in 4 minutes. Everyone will use there subjective opinion of when it's over.
While it is completely subjective, i think at valor 60 i have played enough pvp to know when a loss is a loss and when to just leave and try a new game.

Some people do, in my opinion however, leave way too early. I cant tell you the number of times ive gotten into a match late, on a losing team, (probably because someone left thinking it was a sure loss), and turned it into a comeback.

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bicuspid
02.01.2012 , 12:01 PM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by Aowar View Post
An easy solution to the leaving problem, stop being terrible players. This would fix 80 to 90 percent of the leaving.
this is the hardest solution ever proposed to stop anything actually


what I don't like is joining losing games, that just started. someone else ****ed up and now I have to stick through 14 minutes for it? thats where I leave too. and the next guy gets screwed. one guy leaving because he is bad basically opens up a chain of leaves and only the first guy is to blame

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Lasarith
02.01.2012 , 12:01 PM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by Jaxxar View Post
Worse then that: Joining a losing WZ already in progress because someone leaves it. Waste of my time.
I try to make the best of the Few Minutes i Get, But is pritty hard since the majority on the Enemy team are on or Close to -You are Unbetable status.
10 Years and over 20 Mmo's and i still miss the first