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I can't take the pointless travelling between planets...

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Goretzu
02.01.2012 , 11:35 AM | #981
Quote: Originally Posted by uberman View Post
Its perfectly logical, you just don't get it. I can only lead you to water, I can't make you drink.
Indeed you can't lead someone to water and make them drink granite, it's not logical. It seems we agree again!


Quote: Originally Posted by uberman View Post
I've done no such thing - this has turned into some game for you where you keep putting words in my mouth. Its trolling, essentially.
Trolling would be arguing against something you agreed with, we've already established that you agree that what I suggested would be an improvement and in no way detrimental. So if you're still here it can only be to troll the thread.



Quote: Originally Posted by uberman View Post
I never said it would be flooded - I said it would be an issue. I see people complain about all types of things in the game. They complain about Orbital Strike being able to be used indoors by IAs, they complain that the speeders don't travel right. They complain that the shuttles used on Voss should actually be speeders or another type of transport. I've seen people complain about having paths at all. I've seen people complain about QT points. I've seen people complain about being able to use QT indoors.

I can go on and on. Just because there isn't a 100 page thread on each of these doesn't mean people don't complain about them.

However they understand there's something things that are going to be in the game and just live with it. Then there's those that complain about 60 seconds of their precious lives' wasted going from point A to point B.
And yet I've never seen ONE thread complaining that there is a taxi/speeder point system in the game.

Funny that isn't it? Occum's razor wins again!



Quote: Originally Posted by uberman View Post
People don't complain about illogical things and don't complain about things that don't need changing? Sir, I welcome you to the interwebz. May your stay be a good one.
Strawman arguements won't work.

It's not about that it's about whether MANY people all complaining about the SAME thing is either:

1. a completely random, but highly unlikely occurance

or

2. because there is something specific to complain about.

We both know 2. is occum's choice here.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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Goreson
02.01.2012 , 11:38 AM | #982
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post

Quote: Originally Posted by uberman
No, I'm simply saying that no matter what is done, there will be complaints. Your argument is that people only complain when there is a problem.

No, it's not. Be nice for you if it was though, I agree.
Whether there is a 'problem' rests mostly within the eye of the beholder.

Just because somebody complains about something doesn't mean it's a problem for everybody else.

Obviously me (and other people here) have 'problems' with your suggestion, you don't see and 'problems' with it.

Well, who is right?

Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
Again when a LOT of people are complaining about the same things (rather than a lot of things) occum's razor does not suggest that is because people just like to complain and all happen to be complaining about the same thing (statistically it's hugely unlikely), but rather that IF a lot of people are complaining about the same thing then, yes, there is something to complain about.
Congrats, you have just taken yourself out of the race!

Because from what I've seen here there are more people complaining about your concept than supporting it... so there MUST be something wrong with it...

unless you want to suggest that those complaints are just done to 'troll' you? Hm... right, the conspiracy against Goretzu... don't tell anybody, it's actually the shadow government's best kept secret!

This is just a moon...

This is just, err, another moon...

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Goretzu
02.01.2012 , 11:42 AM | #983
Quote: Originally Posted by Goreson View Post
Whether there is a 'problem' rests mostly within the eye of the beholder.

Just because somebody complains about something doesn't mean it's a problem for everybody else.

Obviously me (and other people here) have 'problems' with your suggestion, you don't see and 'problems' with it.

Well, who is right?



Congrats, you have just taken yourself out of the race!

Because from what I've seen here there are more people complaining about your concept than supporting it... so there MUST be something wrong with it...

unless you want to suggest that those complaints are just done to 'troll' you? Hm... right, the conspiracy against Goretzu... don't tell anybody, it's actually the shadow government's best kept secret!

This is just a moon...

This is just, err, another moon..
.
Hmm... you just seem to be plain raging now. Shadow government conspiracy is it? Oookay.

However if you want to talk about the issue at hand by all means do so.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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Goreson
02.01.2012 , 11:42 AM | #984
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
Well if it's not worse and it's not better then it must be exactly the same.

So what would be wrong with something exactly the same that most people would prefer?
It's not worth investing energy into it?

And please be very careful about using the word 'most'... I don't see a petition anywhere signed by 1,000,001 gamers that support your suggestion. (Based on 2,000,000 subscriptions, modify as needed)

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uebermann
02.01.2012 , 11:43 AM | #985
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
Indeed you can't lead someone to water and make them drink granite, it's not logical. It seems we agree again!
Since you asked a bunch of questions and I answered them all and you didn't disagree with what I said, it must mean that you agree.

Thanks for agreeing that the system is fine the way it is. Have yourself a nice day.

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Goretzu
02.01.2012 , 11:45 AM | #986
Quote: Originally Posted by Goreson View Post
It's not worth investing energy into it?

And please be very careful about using the word 'most'... I don't see a petition anywhere signed by 1,000,001 gamers that support your suggestion. (Based on 2,000,000 subscriptions, modify as needed)
Surely it would be worth it to the many people complaining about it and to Bioware in more $$$'s.

Fair enough it may not be the most critical issue (but then even utterly critical issues like the CD debacle aren't being fixed ASAP), but that doesn't mean addressing it shouldn't be done.

Frankly they could likely fix this in less man hours than you've spend arguing against making improvements.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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Goretzu
02.01.2012 , 11:47 AM | #987
Quote: Originally Posted by uberman View Post
Since you asked a bunch of questions and I answered them all and you didn't disagree with what I said, it must mean that you agree.

Thanks for agreeing that the system is fine the way it is. Have yourself a nice day.
It's too late to try that, you already agreed! Now just Goremon to go then pretty much everyone in the thread is in agreement that this needs to be improved.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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--Grim--
02.01.2012 , 11:49 AM | #988
The troll posts in this thread are much like the copy pasted corridors in SWTOR.... endless and they all look the same.

LOAD SCREEN WARS.... The TROLLS STRIKE BACK

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uebermann
02.01.2012 , 11:53 AM | #989
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
It's too late to try that, you already agreed! Now just Goremon to go then pretty much everyone in the thread is in agreement that this needs to be improved.
Hah you're delusional if you think that this is true by any stretch of the imagination. But hey, whatever floats your boat. If you want believe that you've "won" some kind of argument here (despite not being able to address a single point of mine in response to your questions), be my guest. No one can help your special little mind process information properly

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Goreson
02.01.2012 , 11:55 AM | #990
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
Surely it would be worth it to the many people complaining about it and to Bioware in more $$$'s.

Frankly they could likely fix this in less man hours than you've spend arguing against making improvements.
Ha, yeah, it's Goretzu to the rescue! Your suggestion(s) will make SWTOR the best game ever and will make BW tons of money...

I'm still waiting for ANY proof that ANYBODY other than yourself is supporting YOUR suggestion... or that spaceports/'elevators'/hangars are actually artifacts of the story line(s)...?

By the way: Can I please have your extension at Bioware... err... which location?

As obviously you have designed the game and know exactly how much it would take to modify the game as per your wishes... oh, wait, you said 'likely'... so you are taking an (uneducated) guess?

Nevermind about that number...