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I can't take the pointless travelling between planets...

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I can't take the pointless travelling between planets...

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Martub
02.01.2012 , 06:33 AM | #891
Holy crap!! All these pages of people arguing over travel times and I've noticed that there are 2 prevailing thoughts on the matter.

There are the people that want faster and/or less repetitive travel, and those who don't.

The answer is quite simple: Make travel faster.

Those who wish to take advantage of the faster travel, do so.

For those who don't, when you are ready to travel, let me know and I will come to your house and beat you with a stick for 4-6 minutes. When it's over you can then use the faster travel system and still retain the experience of the old travel method.

Thank you.

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grania
02.01.2012 , 06:38 AM | #892
Quote: Originally Posted by Goreson View Post
Sorry to hear about your condition... but obviously you don't really know anything about how office workers 'suffer' and what has been suggested to them by their HR guys:

get up, stretch, move, straighten up, etc.

You don't have to take a 10/15 min afk 'break' while travelling for that: depending on your system and the planet you potentially have up to 3 min via a loading screen to just do that.

Plus: should I mention the normal auto-travel that is already in game via taxis?

Going by what some people seem to suggest we would almost (yes, I am being extreme!) be looking at an 'interactive' movie: 'watch me fly-fly-fly-fly-fly-fly-fly-fly-fly-fly-fly-fly-fly-fly-fly - 5 min of interaction - watch me fly-fly-fly-fly-fly-fly-fly-fly-fly - 1 min of interaction - watch me fly-fly-fly-fly-fly, etc. ad nauseam.

I know right? Office work is death, no thanks..

Ha, I suppose the loading screens do have an upside

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CaptainHagbard
02.01.2012 , 07:03 AM | #893
While we're at it: why not remove travel altogether? Just let the players click on the already fully explored map (no wasting time with running around) and be teleported there in an instant. Also give everyone a fully equipped level 50 character, so the whole boring questing and fighting stuff is not neccessary and we can focus on the real purpose of MMOs: forum-PvP.

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darkcerb
02.01.2012 , 07:10 AM | #894
Quote: Originally Posted by CaptainHagbard View Post
While we're at it: why not remove travel altogether? Just let the players click on the already fully explored map (no wasting time with running around) and be teleported there in an instant. Also give everyone a fully equipped level 50 character, so the whole boring questing and fighting stuff is not neccessary and we can focus on the real purpose of MMOs: forum-PvP.
I love this alarmist argument, it's completely pointless but it is entertaining.

Clunky travel system changes even just adding the option to skip over it=/= instant teleport and free 50's and if you genuinely believe one will lead to the other then I don't know what to tell you, maybe take a break from the forums.

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McBrite
02.01.2012 , 07:11 AM | #895
/signed

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Tdough
02.01.2012 , 07:30 AM | #896
I cant believe this thread is still open over a pointless thing. Time to close it.

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Goreson
02.01.2012 , 07:34 AM | #897
Quote: Originally Posted by Martub View Post
Holy crap!! All these pages of people arguing over travel times and I've noticed that there are 2 prevailing thoughts on the matter.

There are the people that want faster and/or less repetitive travel, and those who don't.

The answer is quite simple: Make travel faster.

Those who wish to take advantage of the faster travel, do so.

For those who don't, when you are ready to travel, let me know and I will come to your house and beat you with a stick for 4-6 minutes. When it's over you can then use the faster travel system and still retain the experience of the old travel method.

Thank you.
Martub, it's (at least with some people) not quite as simple (but may have gotten lost in by now 90 pages - Mods, I think you may as well prepare a new thread)

Of course, a lot of things could be improved in SWTOR.

And yes, having loading screens (i'm talking actual loading screens, not transition black screens in elevators) last at max 20 sec would be great.

Alas, to some degree this is based on the user's system (ample comparison between HDD vs SSD and HDD vs HDD) so even if BW were to streamline the loading of contents behind those loading screens there would always be people complaining that it just takes that (big, small, gargantuan) tick longer for them.

But I'm sure eventually we will see improvement there, such has been with MMOs thru history.

Question should be: do we need a fix NOW?

My answer: is it broken? Nope. At best it is potentially inconvenient to some. -> Rather fix actual problems!

The same goes with many of the 'optional' improvements: they are adding a layer where the game on the mechanics level may fail.

This may seem a bit in reverse to the 'issue/suggestion' at hand but actually it isn't:

Imagine you need to open a door. There is a knob on that door. All you need to do is go over there and pull.

Now, this is not good enough for some people.

They want to press a button thay opens the door for them so that a) instead of having to use major 'force' (pull) you have to use minor 'force' (press) and b) they can just walk thru when they reach the door without actually having to wait.

Makes sense, doesn't it?

But for that you have to have a mechanism in place that reacts to your command (pressed button), that passes your command on (wiring, pulley system), that actually executes the action for you (motor, pulley, lever, whatnot).

If any of these mechanism was to be faulty, well, you may not get the result you were hoping for (door doesn't open, door won't close, door opens again due to fault command, etc.)

Do you see the point by now?

So, if '****ed up' by BW even the best suggestion can become a huge problem.

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Goretzu
02.01.2012 , 07:36 AM | #898
Quote: Originally Posted by CaptainHagbard View Post
While we're at it: why not remove travel altogether? Just let the players click on the already fully explored map (no wasting time with running around) and be teleported there in an instant. Also give everyone a fully equipped level 50 character, so the whole boring questing and fighting stuff is not neccessary and we can focus on the real purpose of MMOs: forum-PvP.
Indeed, why not add loading screens everywhere, if 2 are good, then 10 much be better, right?.

Plus if they made every loading screen last for 10 mins that would be even better, right?

In fact who needs a "game" when we could just have on long loading screen that never, ever end.




When did this become Strawmans R Us?
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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Goretzu
02.01.2012 , 07:40 AM | #899
Quote: Originally Posted by Goreson View Post



And all of that coming from the same person that claims that all the loading screens and 'empty' spaceports are just artifacts of the story line.

Well, guess what, some of my 'loading screens' don't quack like loading screens (no static 20+ seconds on screen with a loading bar and some friendly game hint') which rather likely doesn't make them loading screens (to me).

Your perception, your problem.

My perception, me not having a problem.

Er... yes.


I'm claiming that the loading screens are there - they are.

That they are an artifact of the story system - they are.

And that they could be relatively easily fixed - they could.


Which bit of that are you having difficulty with?


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*laughs* 'the few anti's' - 'the vast majority' - guy, do me a fav: go thru this thread, all 80+ pages, count the posters (not the posts!), check how many actually are pro change and how many are actually against it/don't see the point. Come back and we'll talk about things again...

As to not being a troll because your suggestions are 'progressive, sensible, reasonable and without any drawbacks'...

Now you are being a troll, definitely!

Including myself other people have brought up (what I consider very good reasons) why no change to travel is necessary (yes, including 'I'm fine with it' which is just as valid as a 'I don't like it')

You want to make a suggestion what you feel BW should change and how they should do it: post it in the Suggestion Box.

You want to have your 'issue' discussed: post it here... but be aware that people will rip into it as part of the discussion.

well, I have given you your quests for today... guess what, you can actually do them without having to go to the spaceport/ship/orbital station!

Count the posters 80% of posters in this thread along are for Bioware doing SOMETHING to ease the current travel situation.

Then there are a handful of trolls against it whislt giving no reason to be against said improvements.

Again what part of that are you having difficult understanding?

So far I've not seen you put up one arguement about why allowing a bind point in your ship or letting you speeder point straight into your ship is a bad idea, or any negative about it at all. You just seem to be trolling tbf.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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Goreson
02.01.2012 , 07:41 AM | #900
Quote: Originally Posted by darkcerb View Post
I love this alarmist argument, it's completely pointless but it is entertaining.

Clunky travel system changes even just adding the option to skip over it=/= instant teleport and free 50's and if you genuinely believe one will lead to the other then I don't know what to tell you, maybe take a break from the forums.
Depends on what changes are being suggested.

And if you had the thread on this topic, then yes, you'd see that people have been suggesting instant travel options above the ones in place now including spaceport/spaceport.

True, skipping scenes/screens =/= instant teleportation

But skipping path thru spaceport/elevator-airlock/path thru hangar/path thru ship to cockpit/path thru ship from cockpit/path thru hangar/elevator-airlock/path thru spaceport, yeah, I think I'll call that pretty much instant teleportation.