Gear based PvP is amateur hour

What really killed AoC was the fact that melee was so much harder to play than ranged, but didn't do any more damage. The combo system is the best idea anyone's ever come up with, but why oh why didn't they implement it for all classes?

Agreed. The "carebears" ruined the game for everyone else!

Can I get a list of all the MMO's that are Major E-Sports today?



That was the list
There are none.

Gear system is alright, and quite satisfying in fact for experienced PvPers.

If you want PvP minus any expertise end-game gear then the 10-49 Warzones are where you will find satisfaction since the stats are all boosted to a hypothetical level.

This argument is only half-true.

When gear is par at the high-end, skill and coordination play a much, much larger role.

The only issue I have with games that follow this model is you either have to get curbstomped, carried, or pugroll with a premade for a significant amount of time to get to that point. It severely bottlenecks fresh blood into a game's PvP community and there's burnout at both ends of the spectrum. Fresh 50s can't stomach the grind as it continually gets longer as gearflation progresses over the patches, and max-geared 50s get bored as all hell from end-less mindless pugstomping and lack of meaningful competition.

We'll see how things turn out when Rated games come in.

The melee system was definitely more challenging than the range was but I believe it was the carebears who QQ'd for Funcom to dumb the game down and make it gear based. They simply couldn't handle losing a PvP bout with another player who was less geared than them.
AoC's "melee" combat system was the most skill based and fun system that I have ever experienced.

Except you can get expertise at certain levels. And why would people care to keep going if once they hit 50 they needed to start over again and start a new online identity?

Gear is a crutch for the incompetent.

GW2 will never come close to the amount of people that bought SWTOR. It is because MMOs without gear progression doesn't appeal to a lot of MMO pvpers and pvers.

GW2 pvp will be all toons are max and they all have the same gear if I read it correctly, you will choose your abilities before battles and after that its all skill. That is "warzone" type pvp not sure about open world.

Swtor needs to have "battlegroups" to increase the player pool. By having more players you can start to match premades, and sort people by gear level. I am sure they have internal systems that can determine a characters gear level. This, at least would give geared people more challenge and new 50s wouldnt get quite so steamrolled.

Anyway, my biggest complaint about SWTOR is that beside dialogue and cut-scenes everything else seems to be just "good enough". Not a lot of polish and many systems are just poorly thought out. Yes you can say they are poorly thought out when people were pointing it out a year ago in beta. Maybe its just arrogant. Either way I don't think the game is growing right now, at least not a quickly as it could be. We'll see what if anything BW does to address this.

in an mmo

E-Sports are much more skill-based