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Bag RNG System: Aging Poorly


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Daedricshots
01.31.2012 , 09:40 PM | #551
I support this thread. Stop screwing over people with this joke system.

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Eradicatelol
01.31.2012 , 09:44 PM | #552
Quote: Originally Posted by JahloveFH View Post
Two videos I made regarding this ****** pvp bag system...

Champion Bag Experiment 1

http://youtu.be/94ZmS8w_Soc

Champion Bag Experiment 2

http://youtu.be/EPKG8WP5ftU



This needs to be changed!
Nice videos, agree. PvP is a waste of time when you put all your hard work in it and you get next to nothing to show for it.
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doorofnight
01.31.2012 , 09:47 PM | #553
Quote: Originally Posted by Weeplol View Post
I really don't get why people QQ. Both WOW and now TOR has choosen to make gear drop randomly. Allthough WOW only had it in PvE.

But to all the people complaining about bags and ****. You're all spoiled from other loot / item systems in other games.

And to make another point, do you see any QQ about the PvE gear distribution? No, you don't. And why? Because they are used to it being random. So, stop QQ about the bags, and deal with it...

And an edit addition;

The people that seem to cry the most about is, is the badly geared ones that's hoping for quick and easy items. PvP players in general are really just crybabies.
If anyone of you can show me a badly geared valor rank 65+ i'll gladly support this thread in every way i can. But i doubt you can.
Well, personally I'm not a fan of random drops anywhere but PVE at the very least the focus is on the group, as long as someone gets something that is an improvement then the group benefits and one person missing a couple pieces of gear very rarely is going to cause the group to fail or cause that person to have a bad experience(unless they are obsessed with meters, of course, but that is beside the point). Also in SWTOR, if no one needs the PVE drop then someone can at least pull the mods off of it and use those on some of their other gear.

PVP, on the other hand, even if you play with a full premade, is much more about the individual and the individual performance because if one link in the chain is bad, then the chain may well break.

The bigger problem with RNG is that it doesn't reward anything. In PVE if you kill a boss then the GROUP that killed it is rewarded with loot which someone either will need for itself, or be able to pull the mods off of it. In PVP, with an RNG gear system, where is the reward if you put a lot of time in? Where is the reward if you are particularly successful? Where is the reward if you are particularly skilled? You could be all of those things and may well end up with nothing but a bunch of Centurion or Champion tokens to show for it, and a)it takes time to get geared out with those, b)they are very much a consolation prize, at the moment, for gear that is clearly better than it.

If they at least made it so that you couldn't get duplicates or what the bag dropped could be traded in for ANY piece of gear you didn't have that would be one thing.

And what about people in a situation like my own, My computer can't handle the lag of Ilum, even with everything set to minimum, and when I can play my faction hardly ever gets wins, and with the current bug what wins I do get often don't count. I love PVP, but at the moment, with the RNG system, it looks like I'm going to hit Valor 60 with about 5 pieces of pvp gear of any variety or quality total so that I will be fully geared for PVP sometime on the dark-side of never.

Honestly, I don't mind gear being difficult and time consuming to get, but I would at least like the gear system to be one in which I know that I will eventually get the gear and that I KNOW exactly what I need to do in order to acquire specific pieces of gear. To get PVE gear I need to find a good PVE group, and if I do that I will still be in a good PVE group even if I don't get every piece of gear that my character needs but in PVP I could be the most dedicated, successful, and skillful player in the entire game and because of RNG it is possible that I will get very little reward for being that, which I just think is a bad way to have things set up.
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Nithryok
01.31.2012 , 09:50 PM | #554
I did 4 weeks of BM bag dailys know what? I got 0 gear and have since shelved my character. FIX THE RNG SYSTEM!

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Orlylol
01.31.2012 , 10:02 PM | #555
Comn Bioware Say somthing about this system, your planning to change it or not !!

99.999999999999999999999999% of your customers are getting annoyed . DO SOMETHING

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Eradicatelol
01.31.2012 , 10:05 PM | #556
Quote: Originally Posted by Orlylol View Post
Comn Bioware Say somthing about this system, your planning to change it or not !!

99.999999999999999999999999% of your customers are getting annoyed . DO SOMETHING
<- more than annoyed, done. Until change occurs.
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Doktar
01.31.2012 , 10:08 PM | #557
Tonight i opened what is probably close to 80 bags and i still am missing 3 pieces of champion gear.

I would be happy if i could buy champ gear with all the wasted centurion commendations that i will never use. Or make it where i can buy champ comms with cent comms. maybe the same amount of return like the WZ to Merc.. get 10 and spend 30.

Oh that is another silly idea .... why not make the bag cost 800 WZ comms? hell id be happy if i could buy a champ bag for 1000 wz commendations instead of having to click the stupid merchant 20 times to to buy yet ANOTHER type of currency.

There needs to be only like 5 types of currency
Planet, Warzone, Raid, Space, and your normal Credits

Im sure the type of currency system was taken from WoW but gess what .... They changed it because it was dumb. Now there are only a few different types.

The current system is only making people mad so what changes are are made do them before people leave. I dont really care what its changed to, as long as it is changed and that the change doesn't suck any worse.

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Eradicatelol
01.31.2012 , 10:13 PM | #558
Wow. 80 bags. Any duplicates?

That was a joke.
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Doktar
01.31.2012 , 10:56 PM | #559
i think i have gotten doubles for every thing i have already, triples for relics and implants and i'm on like what must be my 15th pair of boots

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Eradicatelol
01.31.2012 , 11:07 PM | #560
Quote: Originally Posted by Doktar View Post
i think i have gotten doubles for every thing i have already, triples for relics and implants and i'm on like what must be my 15th pair of boots
This system is horrid.
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