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Love the Bag System. Let's Take it to the Next Level, BW:

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Sectick

01.31.2012 , 09:40 PM \| #561
Bioware why can't you listen on this and fix the champion bags (hell even battlemaster still needs improvement)? The only people who like this system are the ones who have gotten lucky. I have opened upwards of 200 bags (valor rank 58). I have rows and rows of relics, bracers, and boots. I have all of the centurion gear & I still need 5 pieces of champion gear gloves, pants, belt, implants. When I am valor rank 58 (btw didn't start heavily pvping until 50) standing next to a fully championed (and I mean EVERYTHING is champion) valor rank 30 something is not right. This system is a joke and I am loosing the will to log in and pvp (I love this game btw). But right now the effort to reward ratio for the "non-lucky" people is a joke. How is this mechanic allowed to persist. I just wish I knew what it was I needed to finish my set. I can't tell if its 5 more bags or 500. Pathetic system and nothing but a great way of loosing subscriptions. Give people something with measurable goals and they will stay, but make it a crap shoot and people won't waste their time. TL,DR: The system is a joke. Valor rank 30s should not out gear valor rank 50s and rewards should not be random.
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Sectick

01.31.2012 , 09:41 PM \| #562
Quote: Originally Posted by GodofThisWorld We don't want free gear, we like challenges and we like progression. We just want some sort of system that rewards the time and effort we put into pvp, not a 20% random chance (and for an item that could very well be a repeat.) In many ways I think the current system is almost too accessible. QFE. I don't want "free" gear. I want something I earned to be mine, not a random chance at a piece of armor that will most likely be a duplicate.
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Humdot

01.31.2012 , 09:59 PM \| #563
this thread deserves all my posts

Shadow_Spec

01.31.2012 , 10:06 PM \| #564
Quote: Originally Posted by Sectick Bioware why can't you listen on this and fix the champion bags (hell even battlemaster still needs improvement)? The only people who like this system are the ones who have gotten lucky. I have opened upwards of 200 bags (valor rank 58). I have rows and rows of relics, bracers, and boots. I have all of the centurion gear & I still need 5 pieces of champion gear gloves, pants, belt, implants. When I am valor rank 58 (btw didn't start heavily pvping until 50) standing next to a fully championed (and I mean EVERYTHING is champion) valor rank 30 something is not right. This system is a joke and I am loosing the will to log in and pvp (I love this game btw). But right now the effort to reward ratio for the "non-lucky" people is a joke. How is this mechanic allowed to persist. I just wish I knew what it was I needed to finish my set. I can't tell if its 5 more bags or 500. Pathetic system and nothing but a great way of loosing subscriptions. Give people something with measurable goals and they will stay, but make it a crap shoot and people won't waste their time. TL,DR: The system is a joke. Valor rank 30s should not out gear valor rank 50s and rewards should not be random. ^ This
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Briljin

01.31.2012 , 10:11 PM \| #565
Quote: Originally Posted by BurnsTwoThree Jeez, never knew people would get so butthurt because they won't get free purples from PvPing. It has nothing to do with wanting free items, you still have to earn the points to buy them. What we would like is to remove the terrible RNG system bags. This doesn't reward effect, it rewards luck and nothing else. If it takes me 100 bags to finish my set and someone else 20, who worked harder for it? At least this is one of the things WoW did right. You grind out your honor/arena points and you buy your item. You can track and plan your characters progres, not here.

Luxora

01.31.2012 , 10:22 PM \| #566
The OP is genius... excellent comparison. Honestly, whoever came up with this loot system for PvP gear at Bioware needs to be replaced. It's a very simple concept that people like to know that when they put time and effort into something, they will receive adequate compensation. As customers paying for a game, we should feel that our time was well spent, that we enjoyed it. When players reach the point of purchasing something, they want to get what they worked for. To be robbed of that by a factor of randomness does not make your customers happy... quite the opposite.

MigSebes

01.31.2012 , 10:24 PM \| #567
I nominate the OP for BEST POST EVER.
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krmkrt

01.31.2012 , 10:25 PM \| #568
The issue can't be told better than this. This OP is one of the most amazing posts in gaming community history. The frustration of bag system has no limits. I am putting my time, triple the time of my friend. he got all his set and I am walking around with 2 pieces.

stalewee

01.31.2012 , 10:33 PM \| #569
I'm 1 from 15 on my BM bags. I know a lot of guys getting 50%. I haven't played for a few days now and I don't feel like playing today. I don't see the point.

jackccc

01.31.2012 , 10:43 PM \| #570
LOL this thread is win

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