Dungeon Finder Needed Badly

Not the against people cant compromise, its the pro people.

I spend a lot of time here at this forum, explaining ways how to use the current LFG, how a LFG of the future could look like etc.

The response is either

1. NO, you are wrong (of people that didnt even read the post)
2. WE WANT WOW LFG; ITS BEST AND WORK ****...

So seriously tell me please, who is unable to compromise, its your kind!

Read this thread, look at the response I got - its always very childish unable to even understand the post´s which I made. It is impossible to talk about these things with your kind, you have 1 opinion and only see this one as valid. You dont accept other peoples opinions and you demand wow LFG.

using the current system is in no shape or form a compromise, it is a complete forfeiture on the side of people who want a better LFG system.

anything more than the current system and less than a full blown WoW x-server DF is a compromise. At that point it simply becomes a tug of war. what differs is the argument behind them.

Anti-LFD : I have personally don't like it and here are some bad experiences I have had. Also here are some completely hypothetical scenarios in favor of my argument.

Pro-LFD : IN ADDITION to my positive personal experience, ever since its inception it has only grown in popularity to the point where it has become THE way to get groups not only in WoW but in other MMO's that feature it as well.

Quite bluntly, anti-LFD has an argument of one person per person that is against it. Pro-LFD has literally thousands if not millions of supporters, considering all MMO's their players that willingly use it, before the debate even begins. The closest the opposition could do to claim mass support against LFD is some sort of special interest group that specifically says it is against LFD.

Anti-LFD is the minority.

If you can use the current tool, where you talk to people, you wont end up in such groups like you have just described. If someone wants a rush, then you wont join him anyways - so he cant terrorise you at all.


The thing is, if you get into a group with strangers then they will blackmail you at every given time. Look how it does happen at wow all day in and out.

What you dont want to skip bosses? *kick*
What you dont want me to roll for my offspec *kick*
What you dont want to pass for my friend *kick*
What you dont pull 20k dps *kick*.

Reading this forum is fun and sad at the same time. It seems like people got somekind of amnesia, as they dont remember how bad the lfg at wow always was. But honestly I think the most of them didnt even play wow or are exactly those rude people who want to use the lfg tool to terrorise others - as they cant do this now, as nobody will join their groups then.

Agreed. He expanded and added more depth to my two options proposal. We need more posts of that quality, and less threats or opinions disguised as facts.

Doubting whether we played WoW or not.

The problem is you blatantly lie and distort the truth, it makes it very difficult to have a conversation when someone is doing that. When you tell a version of the events that don't concide with the reality of the situation you won't recieve a favourable response. You then have the audacity to be shocked when people call you out on it as if your farts don't stink.
There are enough people anti-LFD on these threads that aren't treated with the contempt you speak of.

I'm willing to move forward but the issue at hand is that the only viable solutions for certain servers is a X-LFD and mergers, no amount of tinkering can fix them besides mergers and X-LFD. The only issue with mergers is combining the different types of servers together and especially this early, isn't a very real solution.

That is why we are trying to get a global X-LFD with an internal server option. This really should be the goal of this thread from now on.

The argument isn't - "oh I get bad groups now and LFd will provide better ones."
It's - "I get nearly ZERO groups now and LFD will provide a chance in hell at getting ANY."

With all respect due, that makes absolutely no sense.
The LFG tool just automates a process which is already in use, aka spamming the channels. The chances to fall on strangers with such attitudes are as high in both methods, provided that we are talking about a non- cross server LFG tool.
The so called bad effects - except the loss of accountability- are all made up and based on false impressions.
Such neutral tool cannot be a pandora box. That's misleading and wrong.

I want you to think really hard on that statement and look around at your peers, they're shaking that head and looking down at you. You honestly believe that people blackmail each other all the time in WoW. First off, if this was true why the hell did you use it all the time? You must have a huge sample of personal runs to know this kind of information off hand, makes me wonder why you were using it soooo many times? Actually I have to stop myself here before I get snarky ...

I dont think that post´s who aim at provoking the other side, so that they might freak out and get banned is a sign of high quality.

It might be smart as in that way you can get rid of the valid arguments of the opposing side, but its still very low and equal to what you pro guys do all the time, closing your eyes and ears from fact´s so that you dont need to argue with the other side at all.