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MorbidAri

01.31.2012 , 04:58 PM \| #231	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Ryotknife how do you think i got that one piece? fact is it took me 18 hours to get one piece of gear. if this was wow i would have had 2-3 peices of gear the moment i dinged 50 from the constant pvp ive done pre-50 and gotten another 5-6 pieces of gear for 18 hours worth of pvp. I keep forgetting I capped pre-Ilum change. Your point is taken.

Caelrie

01.31.2012 , 04:59 PM \| #232	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by RealAeiouy You can't gear up in a weekend that is silly. For the typical player it takes as long in wow as here That's such a flat-out lie you should be punished somehow for writing it.

Daedricshots

01.31.2012 , 05:00 PM \| #233	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by astrocanis There is also the <potential> matter of degree of gear inflation. Progression doesn't have to mean log scale with gear. There's no reason not to make gear inflate by smaller amounts. I remember in WoW when we first started into MC, rogues would go ape over a piece of gear with 10 more stamina and 12 more dex. Now a level 85 is equipped in level 400+ gear. Ridonculous. PvPing for honor/tokens or whatever the currency of the time is how you purchase better gear. This is PLAYER CONTROLLED and its not RNG garbage that just keeps the player hoping they get a piece of gear after grinding the requirements for it. PvP'ing should not be a gamble it should be a means to an end and the end being better gear and not in the form of a slot machine.
LOL At The WoW Quitters http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3967589414

Caelrie

01.31.2012 , 05:00 PM \| #234	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by MorbidAri Same in SWTOR. Only in SWTOR you can get BiS pvp gear just doing WFs. Your point was? The point is the time invested. It's drastically different.

Ryotknife

01.31.2012 , 05:03 PM \| #235	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by MorbidAri I keep forgetting I capped pre-Ilum change. Your point is taken. i say this with as much sincerity as i can muster i envy you.

MorbidAri

01.31.2012 , 05:04 PM \| #236	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by BDutch You speak of "modern MMOs" as if there have been so many wildly successful MMOs other than WoW. I see a failed western Aion, a failed wow-clone Rift, and a handfull of games gone F2P. When GW2 comes out and it's not gear based, will that somehow not be "modern"? BF3 and MW3 are both average like the failed mmos you mentioned. Does that mean they aren't modern fps? I never said every modern mmo was good did I? Go back and read. I said this is how mmos are now. Also I'm not in the crowd that thinks the next mmo will "save" us all like many others. I'm not implying you are from that crowd. In this case forgive me for being a little cynical that a sequel to one of the most bland and terrible mmos is somehow going to be the next thing. Back on subject. Be sure to go to Ilum. Check out that masterpiece!

Sczisnad

01.31.2012 , 05:06 PM \| #237	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by slonep So lemme get this straight. I was lvling up. Playing both PvE and PvP. I was doing pretty well in PVP. Def holding my own. Dinged 50 and went into a WZ. SLAM! BLAM! BLAST! POW! DEAD! DEAD! DEAD! AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH! So. I'm just supposed to get crushed for a while until I slowly gear up over a couple hundred games? Really? You would LOVE guild wars. Hit max level super fast, and boom, you will have the best gear in the game. However there is more rare and expensive gear with the same stats if you want to grind towards that. Otherwise everyone has all of the same gear so the game is Fair! I wonder why other games don't do this!

suzy_lee

01.31.2012 , 05:09 PM \| #238	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by copasetic I'm just curious. Aren't fresh 85 players in WoW forced to go through this exact same gear grind? They obviously aren't going to have anywhere near as much as Resilience (the Expertise equivalent stat) as other 85s do so aren't they going through the same process of getting destroyed BG after BG until they slowly get gear and gain resilience? I realize that with Arena being available in WoW, full PvP geared 85s may not do BGs as much as full PvP geared players in SWToR (since there's no rated WZ or Arena) but nonetheless, fresh 85s will, for the most part, be playing against PvP geared opponents. Are WoW players complaining about this as well? I'm honestly curious. And yes, I am aware of the differences of Resilience and Expertise and understand that Expertise is far more "potent" than Resilience due to the increase in damage and healing as well. I know that this makes the grind in SWToR even worse. I too am a wow player with a few 85's and yes i strongly dislike the method of attaining gear in SWTOR. In WoW you can view the pvp gear at the vendor, see how much each piece costs, then Grind, Grind, Grind. A full 85 PvP set can be earned in a week if you play frequently (faster for some). The major difference is, with the bags, you don't know what you're going to get----8 bags so far, No Gear as of yet, I was able to purchase a relic with my Champion Commendations, I should have held off to get an actual armor piece, however I grew sick of waiting. IMO, there should be no lottery system involved in getting gear "This is Fail" In the workforce after 2 weeks work, I'd like to know that I'm gonna get paid, not hope that it happens. It should be simple, you want a pvp gearset, look at the price. Grind what is required, purchase.

RevanSeven

02.01.2012 , 10:45 PM \| #239	Quote
+1 for this thread, I just hit 50 today and tried to do some warzones, and I went from good to suck instantly. So basically in order to be allowed to do well in warzones I have to spend weeks nonstop getting crushed in pvp in order to stand a chance? This is some serious BS.

DarthBloodloss

02.02.2012 , 02:09 AM \| #240	Quote
Ok I talked to BW. They have agreed to give you free gear that you dont have to work for. Try super mario bros if you dont wanna have to earn gear. Next it will be QQ that you had to earn a mushroom.
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