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Bag system killing my enjoyment

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Bag system killing my enjoyment

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Anduiin
01.31.2012 , 03:25 PM | #61
guild mate hit 50: 6 bags, 6 different piece of champion gear including weapon.
Friend has been 50 for 2 weeks: Opened 35 bags, weapon and offhand.
GJ Bioware, I think a lot of people were giving this game a chance for the 2nd month but something like this not being addressed makes the game just look bad, especially an MMO with a subscription. You expect time put in to yield rewards, not seeing some fresh 50 get more gear than you in seconds while you've been trying for weeks.

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zorkon
01.31.2012 , 03:31 PM | #62
and its not like its a hard fix for them to do either, everyone hates it and is leaving or plan on leaving with the way it is they should know something is not right but still with the ****** bag rng system

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DarthMithran
01.31.2012 , 03:39 PM | #63
The RNG system is definitely not the best as some people can be very unlucky.

However you're still progressing with every bag you open.

If you're < valor rank 60, you should think of it as slowly working towards centurion set with chance of getting champ gear

If you're > valor rank 60, you should think of it as slowly working on completing champ set with chance of getting BM gear.

Duplicates can be annoying but the mods and enhancements can be used to upgrade your centurion pieces. Centurion armor with champ mods is fairly close to Champ armor.

Also if you play any of the pve you can use some of those mods to upgrade your pvp gear. I have lvl 58 mods in some of my champ gear.

I reached rank 60 on my Marauder yesterday (still missing champ relics and offhand). If you compare the difference between Champ and Battlemaster gear, it's not very big which I think is a good thing.

In the end, it's not worth pvping just for gear.

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strikeviperMKII
01.31.2012 , 03:42 PM | #64
Valor 24

Belt, Implants, Chest, Bracers, gloves. don't know how many bags. Probably 20 or so.

Luck of the draw, I guess.

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Nnekk
01.31.2012 , 03:42 PM | #65
I think the "number" given by the RNG when given a bag should be augmented by a number that represents the level of valor a character has. More valor=better chance at obtaining pieces you need.
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zorkon
01.31.2012 , 03:43 PM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthMithran View Post
The RNG system is definitely not the best as some people can be very unlucky.

However you're still progressing with every bag you open.

If you're < valor rank 60, you should think of it as slowly working towards centurion set with chance of getting champ gear

If you're > valor rank 60, you should think of it as slowly working on completing champ set with chance of getting BM gear.

Duplicates can be annoying but the mods and enhancements can be used to upgrade your centurion pieces. Centurion armor with champ mods is fairly close to Champ armor.

Also if you play any of the pve you can use some of those mods to upgrade your pvp gear. I have lvl 58 mods in some of my champ gear.

I reached rank 60 on my Marauder yesterday (still missing champ relics and offhand). If you compare the difference between Champ and Battlemaster gear, it's not very big which I think is a good thing.

In the end, it's not worth pvping just for gear.
So whats left when i have full champ and i still cant get a single token out of a BM bag?
When others who open up less bags have way more pieces....

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ranlaen
01.31.2012 , 03:51 PM | #67
tbh i think this might be my last month in SWTOR crappy random bags,terrible lag in ilum,poor population imbalance with no incentive to join rep ,mirror classes that actually aren't mirror in damage for whatever reason.
The list goes on and on,the pvp is so badly done it can actually get voted for worst pvp in a mmorpg.

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RJChief
01.31.2012 , 03:53 PM | #68
You know cent coms are whats in champ bags to get T1 pvp gear

You have a chance to "WIN" champ gear.....

When you get to BM then you roll on BM gear with a chance to win a battle master com that you can buy whatever you want with


YOU ALSO GET CHAMP COMS to buy T2 for the items you didnt get with luck


PS they should nerf champ bags
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Baneful_dj
01.31.2012 , 03:55 PM | #69
The rng does suck, but compaired to how other games have been, how much effort have you really put in? Most of you talk about having multiple peices, yet the game is only like 5 weeks old, and how many of those have you actually been 50 working towards the set? In other games it takes months to fully gear, and even then if your not the op combo for your team you might not even get the chance at access to all the high end gear.


I am over valor rank 60, and I really don't feel like I am being ripped off on my time spent with the gear I have. If you sub valor 50 I can say you haven't really done that much pvp, and looking at it that way why should you have anywhere near a complete set? Just cause your lvl 50? uh huh, ok.

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zorkon
01.31.2012 , 03:59 PM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by RJChief View Post
You know cent coms are whats in champ bags to get T1 pvp gear

You have a chance to "WIN" champ gear.....

When you get to BM then you roll on BM gear with a chance to win a battle master com that you can buy whatever you want with


YOU ALSO GET CHAMP COMS to buy T2 for the items you didnt get with luck


PS they should nerf champ bags
/thread
no you have a chance to get BM token with champ tokens no BM pieces at all only chance to get a bm token