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The Operative Nerf

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The Operative Nerf

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RJChief
01.31.2012 , 03:23 PM | #191
Quote: Originally Posted by Zarthorn View Post
Flash nade still interupts against a full resolve bar, I can shut you down long enough to kill you, interupt your strongest heal, stun you when you try for a channeled heal, and interupt/stun again with flash nade at which point interupt is back so I can interupt one more heal.

Remember the opener only dropped 1k damage, it still does 3-4k damage which is how much you shield for so instead of just eating your shield and doing a bit of damage, it just eats your shield...a bit like bladeturn used to be in DaoC.
HAHA! Righhttt every single ability you have is a knockdown/interrupt, and they are all on GCD only.

Never have I ever been bent over by a stealthy in the manner in which you are speaking.
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Xinika
01.31.2012 , 03:24 PM | #192
Quote: Originally Posted by Zarthorn View Post
Assassin type class? Check

Spell caster being killed quickly? Check

Age old "Spell caster crying because Assassin class beats them"? Check

Guess what happens if I try to open on a tank? I tickle them, they push me, I get focused and either have to use my vanish or die.

Guess what happens if I open on a tanky dps? 50/50 chance of the win if they know how to play and use there abilties properly, otherwise its a 70/30 chance (30% being that someone else joins in before I kill them)

Guess what happens if I go for a caster type? I kill them because I'm an assassin type and thus the scissors to there paper.

I love that all the Sorcs and Sages are crying about being beat by Ops/Scoundrels and all those hurp round/derp missle spamming Mercs/Commandos are crying too, because it shows we are still more than capable of beating you.

Guess how many Guards/Juggers I've killed single handedly since the patch? None it's like smacking a brick wall with a butter knife.

Guess how many Vanguards/Powertechs I've killed single handedly since the patch? None

Guess how many Sorcs/Sages, Mercs/Commandos and Snipers/Gunslingers I've killed since? Plenty because again, I'm the scissors to there paper and tanks are the rock to my scissors.

But unlike the meme, I'm going to say....Paper is fine, Buff Rock, signed Scissors.

I'm aware I didn't put sent/mara in there because I rarely see them anymore and cannot pass judgement until I fight a few.
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FeelTheSchwartz
01.31.2012 , 03:24 PM | #193
The class former known as the glass cannon now known as the dull knife and free kill class without nerly any def

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VertisReaper
01.31.2012 , 03:27 PM | #194
bioware meant to nerf scoundrels in pve and give them more control in pvp, while bringing down their burst all along. they trolled you guys real good.

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Crawler
01.31.2012 , 03:41 PM | #195
DPS - where is it?

Im amused how the whole whine / nerf discussion goes around operative burst from opener yet there is no discussion about the overal viability of the class.

Serious pvp deals with heals , guard and coordinated dps. Operative dps got nothing to offer in serious PvP. Operative burst were never and issue in group pvp and while the burst combo ( 2x HS) were decent way of spiking unprotected healer down now its all trashed.

Operative dps was weak ealier and now with AB nerf it got hit 3-15% across board depanding on targets armor. Thats huuuge. More then that class got no gap closer nor staying power to deal its damage.

THe whole complain about Op was about 1v1 and even that the patch failed to adress - it hit dps (unreasonable on lowest dps class) , hit burst (somewhat usable in group pvp) while enabled much bigger control over one target - enabling stunlocking (stunlock makes no sense in group pvp where every class got its stun /disable and chaining CC from different classes is just much more effective)
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Darth_Gao_Gao
01.31.2012 , 03:46 PM | #196
thanks for the operative buff, BW.

nerf mages.

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SithtobeJedi
01.31.2012 , 03:49 PM | #197
beating an operative is as simple as knowing when to trinket and when to stun them, and put a dot on them. Can't get much simpler then that. I guarantee most Operatives will trinket the moment you stun them because they want to kill you as fast as possible, use this to your advantage. I've yet to lose to an operative when I have my trinket up, most operatives out of stealth don't have a clue what the heck they are doing so I could care less their buffs or nerfs, I'll s till beat them anyway. Good operatives are more of a challenge, but most can't seem to get beyond "You no die in my opener? What do I do!!!! Oh vanish! Crap im dotted..!! NOOO I DIE!!!"
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zaknaphein
01.31.2012 , 03:57 PM | #198
Quote: Originally Posted by SithtobeJedi View Post
beating an operative is as simple as knowing when to trinket and when to stun them, and put a dot on them. Can't get much simpler then that. I guarantee most Operatives will trinket the moment you stun them because they want to kill you as fast as possible, use this to your advantage. I've yet to lose to an operative when I have my trinket up, most operatives out of stealth don't have a clue what the heck they are doing so I could care less their buffs or nerfs, I'll s till beat them anyway. Good operatives are more of a challenge, but most can't seem to get beyond "You no die in my opener? What do I do!!!! Oh vanish! Crap im dotted..!! NOOO I DIE!!!"
Sadly yes, but the same goes to the oposite. Op got me to 40-50% life now what do i do? Why bother when i've lost so much life?? This is ridiculous! They didn't nerf them at all!
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Skurkanas
01.31.2012 , 04:04 PM | #199
Quote: Originally Posted by zaknaphein View Post
Sadly yes, but the same goes to the oposite. Op got me to 40-50% life now what do i do? Why bother when i've lost so much life?? This is ridiculous! They didn't nerf them at all!
They did nerf us, but mostly in PvE, not PvP.

Great job BW, really

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zaknaphein
01.31.2012 , 04:27 PM | #200
Quote: Originally Posted by Skurkanas View Post
They did nerf us, but mostly in PvE, not PvP.

Great job BW, really
Pvp nerf also. The stun-lock you mention as buff barely matters in grp-based fights. Thus, you might actually double stun someone but the dmg output is now healable and less than other built-up bursts currently in game.
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