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Please, Don't Roll on Items for Another Class in Your Team

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Please, Don't Roll on Items for Another Class in Your Team

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Eldren
01.31.2012 , 02:50 PM | #401
Quote: Originally Posted by Shadowkai View Post
Lol, not in any way. You said you would be "inclined to say something". I'm asking "Why?".
I said I'd be inclined to say something. It doesn't mean I actually would, which is why I put back in the rest of my statement that you so conveniently attempted to ignore because it would destroy your attempt to refute my position. If you're going to quote someone, do it so that the context of what they said is maintained, otherwise you just wind up looking foolish.

From a personal perspective I wouldn't roll Need on something just to sell it, though I feel someone doing so is justified in doing so if they perceive they actually need the amount of money the sale would generate. You'll also note, however, that in addition to my not saying I definitely would say anything, I also didn't start threatening blacklisting, General channel slander, etc., all the threats folks continue to make to convince people that they should only roll Need if they have the approval of their party members.

Care to try again? You're 0 for 1 so far.
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Irusan
01.31.2012 , 02:50 PM | #402
Quote: Originally Posted by Tygranir View Post
I am seeing a lot of people on here saying "If I want it, for any reason, I click need."

Either The Harbinger is somehow magically repelling these people or they are just trolling.

Seriously. I have a lvl 50, a 31, and a 19. I havn't ONCE seen someone roll for a companion or just take something that their class didn't need without first asking the group. Not even once. I have grouped multiple times for every flashpoint and have done almost every heroic quest with the required size groups. It simply doesn't happen nearly as much as these people would lead you to believe.

People taking loot like that would, almost always, be removed from the group and placed on ignore. They would quickly have serious trouble getting groups with no LFD to hide behind. This is not acceptable behavior and they know it. You may stop being trolled now.
But I have 10 more minutes at work and I am enjoying my being trolled all over the place!!!

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Setanian
01.31.2012 , 02:50 PM | #403
Quote: Originally Posted by Shadowkai View Post
/Deflect

Well played.
If you can produce a valid argument I will certainly debate it with you. Ho-ever, I can go back say 5 pages and post every thing you have said which has nearly always ended up as you play your way and everyone else play theirs.

Now if you have something constructive to add, I'm all ears.
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Eternalnight
01.31.2012 , 02:51 PM | #404
Quote: Originally Posted by ikinai View Post
If it's a valid need it's a valid need, whether there are 2 reasons of validity or 10.
That's not an answer.
And by that logic there should not even be need before greed, but only 1 type of roll and pass.

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_Rammie_
01.31.2012 , 02:52 PM | #405
Some people need to go back to WoW where they don't have to think. Their minds cannot comprehend the complexity of companions and moddable gear. In WoW they'll have Blizzard restricting their options AND they have addons telling them what to do.

Here in SWTOR, an upgrade in any form is viable for a need roll, whether it be mods, looks or just stats. It's irrelevant 'who can use it more'. You helped killing the boss, you're entitled to roll. That said, rolling need for cash is rude. Viable, but rude.

And people, please understand, just because need is a viable roll on quite some occasions, that doesn't mean people roll need every single time

Also, winning a roll does not make you a ninja. Taking (stealing) loot with master loot makes you one.

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Setanian
01.31.2012 , 02:52 PM | #406
Quote: Originally Posted by Irusan View Post
Just the universal rule that most seem to be familiar with: Don't be a d**k.

/sighs and rolls his eyes far more dramatically than you.
How can you apply a universal ideal to a new game such as ToR that has companions?
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Setanian
01.31.2012 , 02:54 PM | #407
Quote: Originally Posted by Eternalnight View Post
That's not an answer.
And by that logic there should not even be need before greed, but only 1 type of roll and pass.
Well we did advocate removing 'need' altogether. it would remove the 'my need is greater than your need' argument or the 'my need is greater than your companion'.
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_Rammie_
01.31.2012 , 02:55 PM | #408
Quote: Originally Posted by Setanian View Post
How can you apply a universal ideal to a new game such as ToR that has companions?
Not all people can cope with innovation. Some people want nothing but the same old mediocrity with the occasional reskin.

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ikinai
01.31.2012 , 02:55 PM | #409
Quote: Originally Posted by Eternalnight View Post
That's not an answer.
And by that logic there should not even be need before greed, but only 1 type of roll and pass.
How is it not an answer? Validity of the need is actually the real answer. Now, if you don't understand the differences between a need and greed roll I can't help with that. It's been explained ad nauseam.
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crica
01.31.2012 , 02:57 PM | #410
Quote: Originally Posted by Irusan View Post
Just the universal rule that most seem to be familiar with: Don't be a d**k.

/sighs and rolls his eyes far more dramatically than you.
Sorry, but you are not a universe - you are an individual and have your own mind - speak up if you want me to not play by the default rules of the game or I will just play by the default rules of the game.