Bag system killing my enjoyment

It seems that some people believe that in complaining about the bag system we are asking to be handed our gear for little or no effort. As for me, that could not be further from the truth. For instance, if each piece of champion gear required 50 WZ wins to obtain and I could then select the piece of gear myself after analyzing stats and determining the largest upgrade, then you would never hear me complain. Why? Because in order to get the gear, EVERYONE else has to put forth the same effort as I do. I dislike that I am required to put forth effort and I may or may not be rewarded with a piece of gear at the end. This system is made even worse by the fact that you may get a duplicate and that a "lucky" player can be completely geared after a fraction of the effort I expended.

BTW, I am valor rank 55 on my main and find that continued effort on that character seems like futility. I'm just playing alts in hopes that there is a fix soon.

I'm in that boat right now, too. I just log in to do the WZ dailies, then log onto an alt after I'm done with them.

Haha, that is so funny you are absolutely correct... is what someone would say if you were funny.

All of my alts have champ belts, bracers, plus i have 9 "spare" belts and 11 "spare" bracers taking up bank space for future companions. Like someone said before, grind BM gear then we can talk, until then feel free to have a warm cup of be-quite.

I agree completely with the thread starter, this is a broken system, i only log on for bags and when those bags turn out sour, it makes me not want to play, it makes the game feel like a waste of time.

I like this advice. Keep it coming folks. Sooner or later the amount of people playing pvp at lvl 50 will be 0.

My guild use to have 20+ active lvl 50's pvp'ing. Now? ZERO.

SOOOO damn TURE !! that is so sad ;(

Valor rank 59. Don't even ask me how many bags I have gone through. Only thing I'm missing is a relic and my main hand weapon. it's a grind dude. Not everything is handed to you on a silver platter.

I think there is confusion here. Its not just that's its frustrating because nothing drops, its because you face people in full gear. Let me try explaining in a different way.

1. There are lots of people who became fully geared by exploiting this game and those that simply went the easier pve route on illum until they made it pvp only. These people did not face frustration and I think all of this could ahve been solved by a simply rollback when they changed it to only pvp. Too late for that now of course.

2. Fighting those people in those full sets of gear, can put you at a disadvantage. Large or small, depends on the player but it creates one. That's a fact. This causes a huge gap between those simply trying to get geared up to have a fair fight.

3. In any pvp mmo, most of the time you can plan out what you are trying to get. So you have something to work towards so that your character can get stronger. In this game its completely random and the drop rate is horrible. So there is nothing to work towards or any planning.

4. Since the drop rate is random and bad, there is no character progression as they move up in valor rank. This also creates frustration.

5. There are people who enjoy pvp and play just for that. Take me for example, I will often stay out on Illum for hours after I have finished my daily and weekly just to fight and have fun. That does not mean that a person should not expect a benefit or return for that pvp. This isn't a simple multiplayer game.

6. Even if everyone had to endure, which is not the case, this frustrating random loot problem. It would still wear people down. There should be something in place so that even if you just have bad luck, you still could end up with something.

As of right now, I am rank 52 valor, have had 53 bags(Probably more but I'm not sure), and only have a chest piece, helm, and two relics that I bought with commendation points. My frustration is knowing every bag I get will just have those comm points and I'll still be facing tough opponents because they are in full gear.

So with that said, I don't see how anyone doesn't understand how this can be frustrating.

Ok....i do think we need some effort to have a good pvp set...not asking for easy mode here.

But:

1) If you have 10 pieces ( just to make my math easy) with 20% chance to find a token inside, for your last piece you will have 20% (piece chance) and 10% (missing piece chance) combined.

So, for your last piece you would have 2% chance.

2) Going deeper: If, for one bag, you need 4 victories (daily) and if you have a 33% win rate ( as republic) the final piece would make you play 4 x 3 x 50(2% chance) = 600 warzones.

Is this a korean game?